Cycle Helmets. [POLL]

[Chippy_Tea]

I rode cycles before and after helmets were introduced and never wore one yet always insisted my son did (and he still does all these years later) i would be all for them being compulsory.


South Lakes Police

We'd like to hear your views on this Should helmets be -

Compulsory?

Educate the riders then its their choice?

Better roads, infrastructure and driver awareness?

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[Oneflewover]

I ride a bike daily to work and even though it is less than 2 miles I would always wear a helmet. However, I do think that it shouldn't be compulsory for anyone other than a child to wear one

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The amount of people who die from illness connected to inactivity vastly outstrips those who die due to cycling injuries that could have been prevented by the wearing of a cycling helmet. Thus, if the requirement to wear a helmet put off even a small number of people from becoming active, you would be voting for more deaths not less. It's so obviously a matter of individual choice, I can't see how anyone could want to criminalise some kid on a push bike without a helmet.

Yes I'm a cyclist, and yes I wear a helmet at all times.

This is not about putting people off riding one death of a rider not wearing a helmet is one to many and anyone who would give up their hobby because they are too vain to wear one needs to take their head for a wobble.

When they introduced motorcycle helmets it was unpopular and having been a motorcyclist for many years (after that law was introduced) i can honestly say i would never have got on one without a helmet so why didn't i consider the consequences of head hitting road or an oncoming car, truck or bus when cycling the answer because i didn't think it will happen to me.

 

[Dutto]

It's a "No Brainer" ...

... especially if you've ever seen someones' brains spread over a pavement!

 

[chrisbjones202]

I always wear one on the road. The only time i don't is if it's a slow ride along the cycle path with the kids (who wear theirs).

I think one of the reasons it should be compulsory is what youd have to deal with if you were involved in an accident (whoever was at fault) and the other person died or was seriously injured due to not wearing a helmet. I fell off in Jan on ice at a few mile an hour breaking my collar bone and hit my head quite hard, I was very glad to be wearing a helmet.

Anyone not cycling due to not wanting to wear a helmet is just looking for an excuse.

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[Cwrw666]

Cycle helmets give minimal protection in an accident - they are only designed to protect a glancing blow to the head when you fall off. It's a fact, though, that if you think they're offering you protection you will ride less safely.
In USA states where they repealed compulsory motorcycle helmets, motorcycle deaths actually fell. If you've ever ridden a big motorcycle helmetless you'll know why - it's scary!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Cycle helmets give minimal protection in an accident - they are only designed to protect a glancing blow to the head when you fall off.

Bicycle helmets reduce risk of serious head injury by nearly 70%, study finds

Australian researchers say the study’s findings support the argument for mandatory helmet legislation ‘from an injury prevention perspective’

A major study of bike helmet use around the world from more than 64,000 cyclists has found helmets reduce the risks of a serious head injury by nearly 70%.

The study also found neck injuries are not associated with helmet use and cyclists who wear helmets reduce their chance of a fatal head injury by 65%.

The compulsory wearing of bike helmets in Australia has long been a source of frustration for some cyclists, who argue it reduces participation rates. Previous studies have indicated helmet use encourages risk-taking behaviour or does not reduce serious injury to the brain.

But a comprehensive review by Australian statisticians Jake Olivier and Prudence Creighton from the University of New South Wales that drew together data from more than 40 separate studies found helmet use was associated with dramatically reduced odds of head injuries.

The findings were presented in Finland this week at Safety 2016, the world conference on injury prevention and safety promotion.

Olivier’s findings were particularly significant for serious or fatal head injuries and found the reduction was greater for these kinds of more serious injuries.

“Helmet use is associated with odds reductions of 51% for head injury, 69% for serious head injury, 33% for face injury and 65% for fatal head injury. Injuries to the neck were rare and not associated with helmet use,” the study found.


https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-serious-head-injury-by-nearly-70-study-finds

 

[Mavroz]

I am not a cyclist whatsoever so it doesn't really apply to me but helmets should be compulsory in my view.

 

[dad_of_jon]

I rode cycles before and after helmets were introduced and never wore one yet always insisted my son did (and he still does all these years later) i would be all for them being compulsory.


South Lakes Police

We'd like to hear your views on this Should helmets be -

Compulsory?

Educate the riders then its their choice?

Better roads, infrastructure and driver awareness?

.

I will give up cycling if required to wear a helmet. I'm not vain, I found my head got too hot even thought there are vents on them. On a motorbike fine, but then you're not exerting yourself as much as you do when cycling and speeds are higher. Studies have shown that motorists give those with helments a wider berth. If you look more of a professional cyclists you get close passes by vehicles. I can't say if this is true cos' I always look like a knacker old fart on a bike.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I will give up cycling if required to wear a helmet. I'm not vain, I found my head got too hot even thought there are vents on them.

This one gets a very good review.



The 26 vents offer fantastic ventilation, suitable for hot summer days. A host of small vents (at the front and top) give a consistently even breeze throughout, while large vertical rear vents draw cooling air through effectively. This makes the Kask Mojito feel even lighter than it is—a bonus on lengthy rides. Overall, I would say that the Mojito’s cooling is almost unmatched—only the hyper-ventilated helmets, like the Giro Aeon, may best it here.

https://www.adaptnetwork.com/kask-mojito-road-cycling-helmet-review/

Pros
Close-fit and comfortable design
Lightweight (220g for size M)
Excellent ventilation
Multiple sizes and adjustable to suit most head sizes
Reasonable price
Chris Froome won the Tour de France in this helmet

Cons
None (unless you're looking for a cheaper lid)

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Again another thread goes off topic and discussion moves to something the OP was not asking so again posts removed including my own.

This thread is not about whether forcing people to wear helmets will stop them riding (and therefore do their health harm) it is about whether members think its time for all riders to wear them unless there is a very good reason for them not to if you don't think they should be compulsory choose riders choice!

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[Oneflewover]

Again another thread goes off topic and discussion moves to something the OP was not asking so again posts removed including my own.

This thread is not about whether forcing people to wear helmets will stop them riding and therefore do their health harm it is about whether members think its time for all riders to wear them unless there is a very good reason for them not to.

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Wha??? It was part of the debate. Bit heavy handed there in my opinion

 

[Leon103]

Cycle helmets give minimal protection in an accident - they are only designed to protect a glancing blow to the head when you fall off. It's a fact, though, that if you think they're offering you protection you will ride less safely.
In USA states where they repealed compulsory motorcycle helmets, motorcycle deaths actually fell. If you've ever ridden a big motorcycle helmetless you'll know why - it's scary!

You obviously haven't seen a cyclist come off at 40mph. Helmet saved him. I watch a lot of cycling and seen some nasty crashes, nobody ever has an head injury. Helmets technology has moved on a lot.

I would always wear one, don't understand some cyclists who spends 1000s on kit but fail to wear a helmet. Twice I have come off my road bike, both times my head hit tarmac.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Wha??? It was part of the debate. Bit heavy handed there in my opinion

You are entitled to your opinion and if you think it was heavy handed fair enough, the thread moved into car drivers wearing crash helmets the question and options in the poll were straight forward enough and this was the reason i decided to remove all off topic discussion.

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[marshbrewer]

Ok, so I've read the first post, and shall now answer the question as put.

'Should cycle helmets be compulsory? '

Answer : No, it should be rider choice

Reason: Because they would be a barrier to use, which would cause more harm than good.

 

[MmmBeer]

I have never worn a cycle helmet, however I always try to stick to quiet country lanes and cycle for pleasure and exercise only.

I always believe that it is better to have the freedom to make your own decisions and take the responsibility for your actions, rather than allow the state to dictate when you can eat sleep or break wind.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I always believe that it is better to have the freedom to make your own decisions and take the responsibility for your actions, rather than allow the state to dictate when you can eat sleep or break wind.

I also do not like the state dictating what we do but in this case i could live with it as i wonder how many people do not wear helmets because its not cool and who would feel a lot happier wearing one if we were all forced to wear them.

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[GerritT]

Any opinions appreciated from an inhabitant of the country with the most bicycles per capita?
(UK not even being in the top 10)

 

[baggybill]

I always wear a helmet, always have always will. But it should be personal choice for the reasons mentioned above...

I have a mate who doesn't even own a helmet, cycles way more than me, never came off even once. I also have a couple of mates who've had possible life saving experiences due to wearing one.

The first one, was stationary at a set of traffic lights in Edinburgh, clipped in to his SPD's (fancy pedals locked to your shoes). He toppled over side ways, hit the kerb with his head, split his helmet into multiple pieces and concussed himself. Paramedics asked if they could keep his helmet (or what was left of it!) for their safety talks!

Second mate was at Glentress mountain biking. Stopped for a break and moved sideways off the track to let other riders past. Again lost balance, toppled over, came to rest with his head on a rock! Shoulda seen the nick of his face, wasn't pretty!

Actually, I have another mate, very experienced mountain biker who was showing us some routes up the Pentland hills near Edinburgh. His rear wheel slipped on some wet tree roots and he shot of a gorge He hit the far side full on and slid to the bottom (only about 12 - 14 feet deep). He walked away from it injury free (apart from all the bruising!). Probably would have been a completely different story if he had no helmet on.

Talking of Glentress, me and my son were there once and seen a guy with a full face helmet on. You could clearly see through the front that half his face was scraped off - guess he learned the hard way

So yeah, apologies for the rant but I never leave home without mine...

 

[chrisbjones202]

You can't prevent every accident, a helmet is designed to protect from a knock on the head which can easily happen. That's not necessarily the cause of injury for many cyclist accident.

It added me from between a proper headache or much worse. We'll. Ever know which as I had a lid on.........

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