Cummings testimony

[Welsh Badger]

It's always interesting reading conversations between people with different political views. There is always a hefty dollop of confirmation bias on both sides. Do we not think the political system is unworkable? Always at the mercy of finances?
Cummings interviews show how media and spin is king. Everything he is reporting which is at fault, he was right there with them at the time yet he is snaking his way away from it.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Cummings interviews show how media and spin is king.

This is news to you? The trouble is...it works, people believe this stuff. We're still getting it at the moment, with the efforts to spin trade deals that objectively are pretty terrible, into some great triumph because some bottles of wine will be 4% cheaper. Most people aren't that interested in politics, which makes them vulnerable to spin.

Everything he is reporting which is at fault, he was right there with them at the time yet he is snaking his way away from it.

To be fair to Cummings - hard though that is to say - he was only an advisor, it's the politicians that (rightly) have the power. Arguably Cummings had too much executive power as it was. It's hard for an individual to make a difference in a bureaucracy (indeed, that's been one of Cummings long-standing complaints against "the blob") unless you're one of the people with power at the top.

So things get done if you have a Thatcher/Attlee/Churchill/Gladstone kind of figure providing leadership from the top. The kind who wears their principles on their sleeves so that their underlings barely need to ask what needs to be done, as the answer will be so obvious. Instead we have a vacillating narcissist who encourages chaos and incompetence beneath him because it keeps the spotlight on him.

Yes the underlings can just crack on and do what they can without political leadership - things like the Discovery trial show how millions of lives can be saved without involving politicians at all - but there are some things for which you just need direction from the top. It's not a left-right thing, it's a character thing.

 

[trueblue]

We are getting what was voted for. Johnson was sacked twice in the past for lying, as a journalist as well, and was still voted in. You couldn't make it up

 

[Chippy_Tea]

We are getting what was voted for. Johnson was sacked twice in the past for lying, as a journalist as well, and was still voted in. You couldn't make it up

The Tory voters don't vote for the leader so they are getting what the party members voted for!

 

[trueblue]

Everyone who voted tory knew they were voting for Johnson. Plenty of Labour supporters either abstained or voted for an alternative candidate rather than vote for Corbyn. I know 2 Labour supporters one who voted green the other one Lib Dem and you can abstain.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Everyone who voted tory knew they were voting for Johnson.

Erm O.K i think i will leave it there.

 

[Polcho]

Remember that the government did not roll out the vaccine, the NHS did.

 

[trummy]

I would vote 'Green' if we had a fairer voting system