Sadfield
Landlord.
Are we saying that Mutton, Crisp, Fawcetts, Dingmanns et al, aren't consistent?
Cost doesn't come into it, more about full control of your brewing.
Yes I did Foxy but I did notice a difference in crush from different suppliers on the Ace.For a HBS to crush fine is asking for trouble, fine is only for the BIAB. Baron, did you buy crushed grain when using the brew Devil?
I have noticed that if I put say 200 grams through the mill to check the crush when I fill the hopper with 3 kg, the crush comes out finer than the test batch. Using a three-roller mill I use solder to check the gap as feeler gauges are difficult to get to the third roller. Though I have the increments on the adjusting knobs they don't relate to the gap accurately.
I agree with @MashBag Grainfather mill looks the business the Blichmann is way over the top for a home brew setup
That was my thoughts, seems that those buying the Brewzilla G4 are having to invest in a grain mill to get the BZ4 to work somewhat as intended.Yes I did Foxy but I did notice a difference in crush from different suppliers on the Ace.
It does affect the mashing and I think is more critical on the Gen4 being of a taller narrower profile.
I have bought a mill to do my own but still have plenty of crushed to use first
Well you could say the car was ok but people were not using the right octane of fuel(crush)
See what you did thereAs you said wrong thread go to the Gen4 thread plenty to choose from as it is taking it off topic
The pen is mightier than the swordSee what you did there
Are we saying that Mutton, Crisp, Fawcetts, Dingmanns et al, aren't consistent?
Hmm. I am always left with a feeling that if the system doesn't work with industry standards grains produced in 1000's of tons, perhaps it is not the grain at fault.
A superior crush will be had with conditioning grains, probably something the users of the BZ G4 should bear in mind and it is something that the homebrew shops can't match.It's a fair question why some systems haven't been designed to work optimally with a standard, commercially available crush. Nearly as rediculous as some toasters that don't accommodate a standard sized slice of bread.
If you have one of those systems then milling your own is a reasonable solution. Also, valid is milling your own just because you can.
What I don't get is the psuedo justification that a superior, more consistent crush can be had over that of the maltsters, or MM and GEB, by conditioning in a bucket and using £100 mill and black and decker drill.
Rubbish. They can do it as easily as homebrewers can, if they want to. A 1-2 minute application of steam, job done. The offset is they likely have better quality milling equipment. If they are selling precrushed by the maltsters, as many do, they certainly will do.A superior crush will be had with conditioning grains, probably something the users of the BZ G4 should bear in mind and it is something that the homebrew shops can't match.
You can always ask if Malt Miller will condition the grains before putting them through the mill. If he has a decent mill they will be hardened steel rollers, not something he would like to get wet. The other obstacle is storing slightly damp grains in a closed plastic bag before shipping.Rubbish. They can do it as easily as homebrewers can, if they want to. A 1-2 minute application of steam, job done. The offset is they likely have better quality milling equipment. If they are selling precrushed by the maltsters, as many do, they certainly will do.
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