Covid - Plan B & Omicron

[Chippy_Tea]

Get Boosted Now
(the latest catchphrase )

All over 16's now able to get a booster before new year.

Streamed live 32 minutes ago

 

[DavidDetroit]

Changes to the guidelines have been put in place to accelerate the programme,

I didn't want to guess but that's what crossed my mind as a possibility.
thanks.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Thanks.
Did they mention specifics of why that soon, science-wise, or something like that?

In short - boosters make a huge difference to vaccine effectiveness, especially after 2 Oxford-Zeneca jabs (which a lot of Brits have). See p21 of the latest technical briefing from UKHSA :
https://assets.publishing.service.g...ile/1040076/Technical_Briefing_31.pdf#page=21

 

[Northern_Brewer]

The news from South Africa does not report deaths.

The point is that other nations' health services aren't being overwhelmed.

It's too soon to be looking at deaths, and it's pretty early to be looking even at hospitalisations. But Gauteng has seen Covid hospital admissions go from 154 to 2200 within three weeks :
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z...ts/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/
I leave it to you to decide whether any hospital system can cope well with a 14x increase in admissions for Covid - particularly since the UK has been running at near-crisis levels for several months, eg:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-59613507
Yes, it is "milder" - in that the hospitalised end up in ICU at about half the rate. But that's not much comfort if you're dealing with 14x the hospitalisation rate.

Hopefully the UK won't be hit so badly thanks to a greater (but far from 100%) rate of vaccination, one bright sign is that cases look like they are levelling off in Gauteng, albeit at about 100x the case rate of a month ago :
https://unsupervised.online/static/covid-19/estimating_r_za.html#516_Reproduction_Number

 

[DavidDetroit]

In short - boosters make a huge difference to vaccine effectiveness, especially after 2 Oxford-Zeneca jabs

thanks, I was aware that boosters are worthwhile. I didn't know there is a difference between those available here and those available there; otherwise, it would have appeared arbitrary.

 

[Covrich]

I had my booster THursday... in Tescos of all places. just felt like I pulled has sore delt after training for a day.

I have been very lucky to be honest, not been affected by any ***, not that It would stop me of course.

I wonder if we will be getting boosted again in March

 

[Steved53]

And still you believe what the government chooses to tell you? Any government?
Read up about the UK's Brigade 77. They are the ones controlling the narrative in the UK. Find out what their expertise is, and then you might start to question what you hear from MSM.
Take a look at UK Column News. Org if you would like a different view of what's going on . Be aware og cognitive dissonance.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

:tinhat:

 

[Chippy_Tea]

@Steved53

I for one won't be visiting any anti vax sites, I wouldn't believe a word on these sites for the same reason you wouldn't believe a word the government and WHO may say on theirs.
I am going for my booster on Friday

 

[Flat Foot]

@Steved53
I for one won't be visiting any anti vax sites, I wouldn't believe a word on these sites for the same reason you wouldn't believe a word the government and WHO may say on theirs.
I am going for my booster on Friday

Knowing a family/friends who go for conspiracies, it never ceases to amaze me how they go on about keeping an open mind and questioning, yet will take a random website (often with articles written by someone with 'Dr' in their name but no direct experience in the area they're writing about) at face value.

 

[Flat Foot]

I'm still irked they spent so long debating whether to give kids a ***. By which point they were back at school and it was spreading like wildfire. My eldest had covid the week he was finally due to have his *** in school, so now can't get it until January (he needs to wait 12 weeks).

A friend of mine tipped me off that the website was now allowing under 40s to book a booster even though they hadn't updated the splash on the homepage so on Saturday I managed to book a booster at a local chemist this Saturday for me and my wife.

TBH my wife should have been prioritised anyway, since she works in a school with kids. I have stayed at home since March 2020 and whilst I'm keen to get a booster I'd happily be further behind in a queue behind those who have to leave the house to work so have more daily contacts.

 

[Flat Foot]

Oh, and thoughts with all my friends in the NHS who found out at the same time as us that Boris is expecting them to *** all adults by the end of this year.

Merry Christmas!

 

[Covrich]

Knocking out over half a million boosters a day. THe process is still going strong at least and people are signing up for it.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

And still you believe what the government chooses to tell you? Any government?

And yet you believe that a government that has demonstrated that it is completely incapable of organising a party in a brewery, can't even snog their assistant without CCTV being splashed over the front pages, is capable of organising a multi-level conspiracy without it leaking?

Read up about the UK's Brigade 77. They are the ones controlling the narrative in the UK.

Read up about Russia's propaganda operations, spreading anti-vax information because they want people like you to die. They are the ones controlling the narrative in your head. But when you believe nothing, you believe anything.

Take a look at UK Column News. Org if you would like a different view of what's going on .

I could take a look at Teletubbies.org for information - but the Teletubbies have no demonstrated expertise in immunology. What expertise have UKCN demonstrated in anything, least of all medical science?

 

[DavidDetroit]

Take a look at UK Column News. Org if you would like a different view of what's going on . Be aware og cognitive dissonance.

Why would you believe you can trust anything UK Column News prints?

I agree: be aware of cognitive dissonance.

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Knocking out over half a million boosters a day. THe process is still going strong at least and people are signing up for it.

But Johnson has announced they will be doing 1 million per day between now and New Year - it's a big ask.

We went to a walk-in last week and had to wait about ten minutes for a ***, from what I've heard some walk-ins have been overwhelmed over the weekend and had to turn people away. I imagine that as they ramp up capacity there will be a lot of appointments being released in the next few days, or go to walk-in centres at funny times of day (not weekends or early evenings). Whatever you do - get boosted if you're more than 3 months from your 2nd ***, it makes a huge difference to effectiveness, particularly against omicron.

And keep doing all the usual things - minimise time spent in crowds, close-contact and confined spaces, wear masks (preferably N95/FFP2) where appropriate, use ventilation and air filtration where possible etc.

 

[dad_of_jon]

I don't believe in a conspiracy. The facts more point to incompetence & ignorance as well as politicians worrying about their re-election chances than a concerted effort to de-populate and control society.

The WHO said face masks weren't necessary at the beginning only to change their tune later. This was despite masks having proved to be of benefit in a previous outbreak of SARS (the original) which was related to sars Cov-2 (Covid19). As I wash my hands regulary and keep my hands off my face I should by immune to bugs because surfaces are the only way they spread - .

There's evidence the US funded Chinese lab research into coronavirus's. Probably doing it on the cheap and whoops that went well due to yet more incompetence.

We live in a world of stupidity & greed unfortunately. I try my best not to engage with those 2 numpties.

 

[Hanglow]

That poster hasn't been active for 4 years then up he posts with a nonsense conspiracy theory I suspect someone's password got compromised

 

[Covrich]

But Johnson has announced they will be doing 1 million per day between now and New Year - it's a big ask.

We went to a walk-in last week and had to wait about ten minutes for a ***, from what I've heard some walk-ins have been overwhelmed over the weekend and had to turn people away. I imagine that as they ramp up capacity there will be a lot of appointments being released in the next few days, or go to walk-in centres at funny times of day (not weekends or early evenings). Whatever you do - get boosted if you're more than 3 months from your 2nd ***, it makes a huge difference to effectiveness, particularly against omicron.

And keep doing all the usual things - minimise time spent in crowds, close-contact and confined spaces, wear masks (preferably N95/FFP2) where appropriate, use ventilation and air filtration where possible etc.

No excuses now, even my 20 year old work colleagues can get it. Get it booked , get it done! and collectively we can move us all in the right direction

 

[franana]

Entering my NHS number 50000 times this morning because the website is broke as hell but I will persist! One of the most frustrating experiences I've had is some of my (older, 60s) family refusing to get vaccinated, it's infuriating. Anyone have some advice on how to annoy them into it?