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Nah, in less than 2 brews time you'd fine something else interesting, and you'd buy that too. Trust me on that...
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Nah, in less than 2 brews time you'd fine something else interesting, and you'd buy that too. Trust me on that...
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Within the company that I used to work for was a forensics department. They did drugs and alcohol in urine analysis. Our office acted as an out station for them, so we were all trained to take samples.
I can therefore say that I‘m a trained and certified “piss taker”.
One of the things that I do remember was that it took around 1 hour for alcohol to enter the bloodstream and 1 hour for the body to process each unit of alcohol.
If you consume 22 units of alcohol it will take 23 hours for you to be alcohol free.
Given that you don’t finish drinking until 9pm, and start the next day at 2pm, then you can’t ever be sober.
I can therefore say that I‘m a trained and certified “piss taker”.
One of the things that I do remember was that it took around 1 hour for alcohol to enter the bloodstream and 1 hour for the body to process each unit of alcohol.
If you consume 22 units of alcohol it will take 23 hours for you to be alcohol free.
Given that you don’t finish drinking until 9pm, and start the next day at 2pm, then you can’t ever be sober.
So you don't have to buy a priming kit. A KG of granulated sugar is fine to use?
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I do find beer made with 50% sugar can be a bit thin, but you can still get a decent beer from a one can kit and a kilo of sugar.
The Wilko kit requires a kilo of sugar. When you transfer to the pressure barrel, you need to add 90 to a 100g of sugar. The KingKegs have a valve on top so you can add a little CO2 after you have supped a few pints. Ideally the beer is two weeks in the FV, two weeks in the PB where it self-carbonates and then two more weeks somewhere cold to clear.
If you plan ahead and can brew every two weeks you could buy two FV's and three PB's and set up a wee production line. But you could only drink at the rate of twenty pints a week - enough for most of us
If you plan ahead and can brew every two weeks you could buy two FV's and three PB's and set up a wee production line. But you could only drink at the rate of twenty pints a week - enough for most of us
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I'm happy my WIFE doesn't know how much my home brewing habit costs!
This is an over conservative rule of thumb which works for smaller amounts. I breathalyser myself regularly and if I was to have 22 units which is ten pints these days say starting at 4 and packed in at 9 I'd be well under the limit by ten the following morning.
To return to the original question, and speaking as yet another accountant, I reckon on roughly £1 a litre. I try to do actual sums in SI units, because SI units work much better than Imperial units for boring stuff like science and because I brew to 25L which might get you 48x 500ml or thereabouts and that is either 12x 2L in old cider bottles or 2x24x 500ml Coopers bottles. Each stores quite neatly.
So one batch might break down as £8 for grain, £5 for hops, £2 for yeast, £6 towards a replacement for ever more frustrating Grainfather that cuts out at 70-odd degrees C and the £4 for the "rest" represents the other kit I accumulate slowly but surely and stuff like water, chemicals to add / clean and electricity, which sure as hell ain't free.
Most of the "costings" people do (to tell SWMBO?) tend only include proximate ingredients like, say, the can and the sugar, at its simplest.
A brewday for me takes ~6 hours. Playing around with it - milling grain (and better still, roasting it in oven and stirring every 20 mins,
) racking / bottling and generally moving it around could equate to a total of a full working day per 25L brew.
We might compare it to other middle-aged-bloke-type-pass-times like golf. If you were to work out a cost per hole of golf, maybe it comes out similar to a litre of HB? (Here comes the sums: 70 rounds in a year at 18 holes a year comes to 1,260. Does £1,260 cover membership, the hardware, disposables and travel costs?)
So one batch might break down as £8 for grain, £5 for hops, £2 for yeast, £6 towards a replacement for ever more frustrating Grainfather that cuts out at 70-odd degrees C and the £4 for the "rest" represents the other kit I accumulate slowly but surely and stuff like water, chemicals to add / clean and electricity, which sure as hell ain't free.
Most of the "costings" people do (to tell SWMBO?) tend only include proximate ingredients like, say, the can and the sugar, at its simplest.
A brewday for me takes ~6 hours. Playing around with it - milling grain (and better still, roasting it in oven and stirring every 20 mins,
) racking / bottling and generally moving it around could equate to a total of a full working day per 25L brew.We might compare it to other middle-aged-bloke-type-pass-times like golf. If you were to work out a cost per hole of golf, maybe it comes out similar to a litre of HB? (Here comes the sums: 70 rounds in a year at 18 holes a year comes to 1,260. Does £1,260 cover membership, the hardware, disposables and travel costs?)
A 200 pound man who had drunk 10 pints by 9pm would not be legal to drive for 11 hours! That takes him up to 8am the following day when his BAC would still be on the limit. To reach zero BAC would take 16 hours. That would be 1pm! So it will be somewhere between 8am and 1pm.
I edited this because the clock starts when you start drinking, not when you stop. (Mea Culpa). But who would drive with a hangover? A BAC of 0.08 probably still increases risk to you and others.
https://www.drinkfox.com/tools/bac-calculator/uk
I edited this because the clock starts when you start drinking, not when you stop. (Mea Culpa). But who would drive with a hangover? A BAC of 0.08 probably still increases risk to you and others.
https://www.drinkfox.com/tools/bac-calculator/uk
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It costs me a fortune if I dont work overtime and do a brew instead.lol
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Yes maybe although I generally always drink the same cider I buy.
Fingers crossed this cider works as it's been a while since my last batch-20 + years
They mix between 3 for £5 and 4 for £6 bottles mainly 4 for £6 and 2*4 can boxes for £9 so similar in NI for tescos.
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That's the same here then
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We once had two Irishmen sent to our office for a random DAU test. It was the day after St Patrick’s Day. You could smell the drink on them at 10 in the morning.
My boss asked them how much they had had to drink the night before and what time they stopped drinking.
They said they had had 10 pints of Guinness between 7pm and midnight.
He told them to come back at 6pm for the test.
The B sample had to go from our office for analysis. This only ever happened when alcohol was detected in the A sample, and the results were disputed by the donor.
I can only conclude that 18 hours after they had stopped drinking they were still shifting alcohol from their body. Or the volume and timing they gave us was incorrect.
My boss asked them how much they had had to drink the night before and what time they stopped drinking.
They said they had had 10 pints of Guinness between 7pm and midnight.
He told them to come back at 6pm for the test.
The B sample had to go from our office for analysis. This only ever happened when alcohol was detected in the A sample, and the results were disputed by the donor.
I can only conclude that 18 hours after they had stopped drinking they were still shifting alcohol from their body. Or the volume and timing they gave us was incorrect.
Noone was suggesting that anyone should drive just that my own empirical evidence suggests that by 10am I'd be well under 0.8 BAC and certainly not permanently drunk which is suggested by randomly googling online calculators which err on the side of caution. I rarely drive sober yet alone hungover.
As for @Shirley Bassett s Irish folk it was St Pat's day maybe they forgot the odd J J they had.
shame on you!
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I really can't wait to see how you get on with this.
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It usually costs me between 20 and 30 quid to fill a corny keg. So that's 19L or 33 pints. I could reduce my costs if I was an AG brewer. I could further reduce my costs if I brewed beers below 6% or beers that aren't aggressively hopped. But as it is, I am happy to pay a maximum of £1 a pint. The price of a pint in Belfast is about £5 and the specialist offy I go to is not cheap. Expect to pay about £30 for 6 or 7 beers, and that's avoiding the really dear ones. With all that in mind, a pound a pint doesn't seem so bad.
Latest delivery for me cost £60 and that'll do me for 7 20L AG brews (including delivery) so that's about £8.50 per brew. About 22p per 500ml bottle if my maths is correct.
Of course, it's not all about cost - went to the pub last monday and had 2 pints of sh**e...
Of course, it's not all about cost - went to the pub last monday and had 2 pints of sh**e...
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I can brew a pint for a poofteenth of bugger all, if I go into a pub serving craft beer I would expect to pay $12 per pint around 6 GBP. At the end of the day it's a case of never mind the quality feel the width. I will say I did buy a bottle of Lion Stout last week, purely for nostalgic reasons of a trip to Sri Lanka and it was bloody delicious.
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