Wel i've allready got one in secondary, it was the youngs brew lager as it came free but I tasted it when I was bottling and it tasted awful (may have got a yeasty mouthful) so I don't know how it will turn out. I'm trying the coopers now while the other one finishes so I just wanted to make sure it goes well this time. Thanks for the reply it helps and I will be sure to let you know how it goes