Cheapest 330ml Bottles

[Leon103]

Would be curious to hear what the P&P is, although I collect as it is local. Worth checking their malt prices, stupidly cheap for 25kg.

I asked for 8 x 750ml and 2 x 3000ml bottles.

They said they don't have 3000ml bottles and don't know when they will have them in again.

To post the other 8 bottles it is £45.

I didn't see their malt. Do you have a link

 

[Ghillie]

Ws thinking a bench capper would be easier, might just persist with the wing one

You might like it, I do like mine - but maybe I was expecting too much.

It is bottling after all, so I think it's always going to be a chore regardless

 

[Ghillie]

To post the other 8 bottles it is £45.

 

[Ghillie]

Surely there is a solution to which you can soak pretty much any beer bottle and the label will come off?

If you find it, patent it and sell it - you'll be a wealthy man!

It would annoy me to spend money on beer bottles with no beer in them.

Yeah I get you, but it is a one off purchase as my mates will return the bottles. I've wasted so much time getting labels off bottles in the past that I would honestly rather pay for empty clean ones that suffer more time at the kitchen sink with a stanley blade, soapy water, bucket loads of different solvents and misery

And yeah, the labels on Bulmers bottles are easy to get off!

 

[Sadfield]

I asked for 8 x 750ml and 2 x 3000ml bottles.

They said they don't have 3000ml bottles and don't know when they will have them in again.

To post the other 8 bottles it is £45.

I didn't see their malt. Do you have a link

https://www.staffordshirebrewery.co.uk/malt/

I was wondering what they would charge as they aren't really a homebrew supplier. When going to the brewery and collecting, they are really friendly and helpful, but I can see them not wanting to get into shipping small orders, and dealing with appropriate couriers.

I'll only recommend them to locals, in future.

On a side note, I guess Malt is 0% VAT rate like other foods as I was only charged £14.75 for 25KG sack Muntons Extra Pale Planet Malt, last week.

 

[the_quick]

I think I will still get my bottles from The Range - £12.99 for 12. It looks like postage is a killer.

 

[Gerryjo]

Ws thinking a bench capper would be easier, might just persist with the wing one

I have a wing one that snapped the neck on three Old Speckled Hen bottles nearly slicing the thumb from my hand and then invested in a bench capper which will do 26mm or 29mm caps.Great investment.

 

[simon12]

https://www.staffordshirebrewery.co.uk/malt/

I was wondering what they would charge as they aren't really a homebrew supplier. When going to the brewery and collecting, they are really friendly and helpful, but I can see them not wanting to get into shipping small orders, and dealing with appropriate couriers.

I'll only recommend them to locals, in future.

On a side note, I guess Malt is 0% VAT rate like other foods as I was only charged £14.75 for 25KG sack Muntons Extra Pale Planet Malt, last week.

Malt is only VAT 0% when sod to a registered (with HMRC) brewery. They must have it set up at 0% as they don't pay it. I suggest you don't tell them.

 

[stephen1546]

I have a wing one that snapped the neck on three Old Speckled Hen bottles nearly slicing the thumb from my hand and then invested in a bench capper which will do 26mm or 29mm caps.Great investment.

Ouch, i smashed a bottle neck on Saturday using the capper, was like stuff this malarky

 

[Mavroz]

I have a wing type capper and a bench capper. I eventually purchased the latter because everyone raves about them.

I don't actually find the bench capper to be any quicker or easier than the wing capper. Might be something to think about if you were planning one...

Everyone is different but the bench capper i bought a few months ago is a godsend as opposed to the wilco hand (wing) capper.

 

[xozzx]

For removing labels I soak for a few hours, peal the label off then apply a paste of bicarbonate of soda and sunflower oil to the glue. After leaving a few hours a quick scrub in soapy water removes the remaining glue. This even works for brewdog bottles, tho for these I dont soak them, fill with hot water, wait a few mins and peal the label off, then apply the bicarbonate soda paste.

 

[Ghillie]

For removing labels I soak for a few hours, peal the label off then apply a paste of bicarbonate of soda and sunflower oil to the glue. After leaving a few hours a quick scrub in soapy water removes the remaining glue. This even works for brewdog bottles, tho for these I dont soak them, fill with hot water, wait a few mins and peal the label off, then apply the bicarbonate soda paste.

Would you like to pop across to Forres and show me? There's about 80 or so, I'm sure after 60 or 70 I'd get the idea

Will be certain to give that a try, thanks @xozzx!

 

[Mavroz]

I very recently binned, well recycled around 40 Brewdog, Blue Moon and Hop House bottles (330mm) i had collected, as i just didn't use them and they took valuable space up.
Wish i had have known you wanted 330's @Ghillie .
I know exactly what you mean about Brewdog bottles, they are by far the hardest i have come across.
Anyway, all labels other than plastic labels and brewdog that i have come across always "float" off after being soaked for a day in a bucket of water (hot or icy cold, your choice) with a good 5 or 6 desert spoons of Sodium Percarbonate dissolved into it (Kettle of boiling water does the dissolving trick before topping bucket up).
A quick rinse under warm water with a cloth or scourer removes the dregs of the water based adhesive.
Plastic labels peel off, leaving some sticky residue. ###
Brewdog labels can be scraped off after the soak with a sharpish knife. ###

### Now the fun part, i "borrow" a bit of Ambersil Label remover from work and give the sticky residue a light squirt with this. Wait a couple of minutes, then give an old rag a spray with Ambersil and rub the sticky on the bottles and it does come off. The Ambersil has a strong Orange citrus smell, but a good wash of the bottle in soapy water and a rinse with clean gets rid, no problem.
Bit of a faff but no label has defeated me as of yet.... I dare them to try, around 400 ish bottles to date and i haven't been beaten.

 

[GerritT]

https://www.braumarkt.com/en/produc...r-bottle-bnr-euro-bottle-brown-30-cl-box.html


30 p each, £8 p&p (international from 0031 to UK) BUT heavy or fragile items may (or 'will') be more expensive, so might mail them for more info.

 

[Dutto]

It's probably a daft time to ask but "Why would a Home Brewer wish to use 330ml bottles?"

A 23 litre brew will require 70 bottles to be filled and capped before it is ready for carbonation and conditioning.

Then, when the brew is ready to drink, by the time the brew has been poured off to leave the layer of yeast behind at the bottom of the bottle, there is barely a mouthful left in the glass.

Back in the day, the only thing I can remember being bought in small bottles in a pub was Barley Wine; which was a drink much favoured by little old ladies who always vowed they would "Never drink beer!" At an ABV over 10% small bottles made sense and even then some of the little old ladies were a bit "wobbly" by the time they left the bar!

For me, 500ml bottles are the smallest I ever use; and even these are only used for high ABV drinks that will keep for special occasions.

 

[Pavros]

It's probably a daft time to ask but "Why would a Home Brewer wish to use 330ml bottles?"

I use them if I brew small batches (ie 1 gallon stove top batches) and when I brew the Brewferm Belgian kits which tend to be a bit stronger and need to be stored away in a dark box for a while to condition.

 

[Ghillie]

It's probably a daft time to ask but "Why would a Home Brewer wish to use 330ml bottles?"

A 23 litre brew will require 70 bottles to be filled and capped before it is ready for carbonation and conditioning.

Then, when the brew is ready to drink, by the time the brew has been poured off to leave the layer of yeast behind at the bottom of the bottle, there is barely a mouthful left in the glass.

Back in the day, the only thing I can remember being bought in small bottles in a pub was Barley Wine; which was a drink much favoured by little old ladies who always vowed they would "Never drink beer!" At an ABV over 10% small bottles made sense and even then some of the little old ladies were a bit "wobbly" by the time they left the bar!

For me, 500ml bottles are the smallest I ever use; and even these are only used for high ABV drinks that will keep for special occasions.

Hey @Dutto,

So there's a few things that I probably should have mentioned...

I keg all my beers and fill bottles from the kegs with a bottle filler. So there's no bottle conditioning or sediment (wastage) in the bottles, you can tan the lot.

I used to (and still do) fill 500ml bottles this way, but I only get a maximum of 38 bottles from a keg. So in terms of giving bottles off to mates, if I want to give one pal a couple of bottles then that's a litre. If I use 330's, they still get a couple of bottles but I'm left with 1/3'rd more beer than I would have been doing the same with the 500's. So it's 38 500ml bottles vs 57 330ml bottles. In my mind, what this means is a larger stockpile of different beers that I can give off to mates. More bottles of beer means I can hand out more before running out. My logic is total mince by the way, but some of it makes sense in my wee head.

I've recently become chairman of my own grain, hops and yeast charity. If they ever felt like they wanted to, donations towards ingredients could be made, in turn for bottles of the end product if you get what I mean? Still a "Not For Profit charity", but one which potentially could allow for the cost of materials to be covered each time

 

[Cwrw666]

Why would a Home Brewer wish to use 330ml bottles?

Because for some reason our beers keep coming out at 6 to 7% and drinking that by the pint is a dangerous game in the long run.

 

[Sadfield]

What @Ghillie said, plus drinking the appropriate beer out of the appropriate style glass, therefore the beer need to come from the appropriate sized bottle. 500ml feel right for Trad. British and German Ales, 330ml better suit Belgian and American styles.

 

[Graz]

I use them if I brew small batches (ie 1 gallon stove top batches) and when I brew the Brewferm Belgian kits which tend to be a bit stronger and need to be stored away in a dark box for a while to condition.

As above, only use them for Brewferm kits due to the strength and that Belgian beer is normally served in those sorts of bottles.