Thank you all, I don't have a local brew shop any more, all I have is Charlies also known as Coed Dinas who do kits and some of the hard wear but basis one shelve in the organic foods section, they do a better range of tractors.
There was a good shop in Saltney near to where I use to live, and Shrewsbury where my daughter lives, but both closed, and not into on line shopping.
So picking up packets of yeast is a problem, also things like yeast foods, and flavours, or the charcoal to remove the after tastes, all were easy to get when the brew shops were open.
I am not really into cider, did try once with real apples, and it was so dry had to add loads of sugar before drinking, and I realised it needs those tablets adding to stop it brewing at a crucial point, but that also means it is flat, and walked around a museum in I think Hereford and it seems cider making is a lot more involved than I thought.
Idea of freezing a slug in neck is not really an option with DIY brewing. I also was surprised how long it took to clear, I used a juicer rather than a press, and it was a lot of work for a disappointing result, and today the problem is keeping the brew warm enough, I use a demo under floor heating tile 20 watt which the fermenter sits on, with a sensor held under a sponge and buggy cord, and side of fermenter with a thermostatic controller, but only have one, so two fermenter are placed very close together as share the one heater, so making a cider means not making beer, so don't make much.
The alternative to tables to stop brewing seems to be put it in the fridge, so I have a fridge full of cider, that way can have a little fizz, and still keep it sweet. Again a limited space, so limited quantity can be made.
The thoughts are is it worth it, or should I just buy some cans?