BrewFerm - Triple

[JustBri]

Hi Guys

Didn't think i had enough bottles to do another so soon(150 to drink), but i found some 330mlsi forgot about, which will be ideal for this brew, it being so strong i think only a couple of halfs will be needed :drunk:
Anyhow bought my third FV(10lt) and the Brewferm Triple kit, so i'm off to get this one underway, i'll post og laters
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JB

 

[broadfordbrewer]

You're unstoppable!
You've inspired me to start my BF Tarwebier tonight :thumb:
My reason for delaying this one is my total lack of funds at the moment.... I have the beer kit but need two FV's for this. I've just decided I will go and buy one of those cheap multi-purpose flexible bucket things, then I can transfer to that after 1st fermentation, then clean my proper FV out and transfer back to that for second fermentation. That way I can con the Mrs into thinking I bought the flexi bucket for the kids toys or some other white lie :whistle:

What abv does the Triple brew to? sounds good if it needs small bottles!

 

[JustBri]

Hi Bishops Finger,

The abv should turn out at 8%, :drunk: , just about to put it on, did go looking for the Tarwebier, but my local shop didnt have it in so opted for the triple, does the Tarwebier require 2 ferments?

Happy Brewing

JB

 

[broadfordbrewer]

8% nice! :shock:

Yeah the Tarwebier instructions say you should transfer after the primary fermentation into a clean FV and add all the sugar to that, then leaving it some more time before bottling (can't remember the number of days). Bit of a faff but I'm hoping it will be worth it for 20 quality pints of about 5% :

Have fun,
Dave

 

[JustBri]

Hi,

kit on and OG was 1060 :drunk: :drunk:


JB

 

[broadfordbrewer]

Good work JB. Just put mine on now (no chance to do it last night!)
OG was 1.052

 

[JustBri]

Good work JB. Just put mine on now (no chance to do it last night!)
OG was 1.052

Nice one mate, you'll have to let me know how it turns out

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JB

 

[broadfordbrewer]

Will do, same to you on the Triple, I could certainly use something 8% right now!

I'm slightly confused by the instructions though. After 10 days it says to transfer the beer to another FV and add the remaining 150g sugar until disolved.... it then doesn't make it clear if you bottle it straight away or leave it in the 2nd fv for any period of time? Is this the same for yours and if so how do you interpret the instructions?

 

[Smuff]

Hi,
I bottle straight away after mixing the sugar in the second FV. Normally sugar is added directly into the bottles for the secondary fermentation to carbonate the beer; Brewferm want you to add and mix it up in a FV. Different method - same end result.
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[JustBri]

Hi,

My last Brewferm i just added sugar to the bottles, works the same, and just as nice i'm sure :)

 

[broadfordbrewer]

Thanks guys, that's helpful to know. Think I may just go straight to bottle. The brew is looking happy and was down to 1.036 last night. The yeast is obviously very different in this brew it has made froth in crazy peaks! :shock:
Dave

 

[stevander74]

Hi Bri and BF.
Im following your Brewferm brewing with interest as ive got abdij (abbey) waiting to get started as soon as my fv becomes free. Hope they work well for you. :

 

[Kyral210]

Brewferm want you to add and mix it up in a FV. Different method - same end result

I always do this. I find it is less hastle than the sugar into the bottle method and gives a more even distribution of the sugar. If I put 1 teaspoon too much into a bottle it will explode (or be so fizzy it will be useless). If I put 5 teaspoons too much into the 2nd FV in my method, nothing really much happens. Ok, a bit more fizz than it should have but it allows for that margin of error. Also I like all my beers to be the same and I use different sized bottles. I cant be bothered to calculate sugar amounts for all different bottles, jsut bung it into a 2nd FV, give it a good stir and bottle it. DONE!

 

[Grumpy Jack]

I've tried both methods of priming over the past two years, on my Tarwebier which is currently sitting in bottles I tried the recommended method, it's true that it does ensure an even spread of sugar if you're using different sized bottles, but all mine are pint bottles so it's not really any great shakes.
When i first started out I was told that if I primed in a second vessel with sugar which I'd heated with a small amount of water, so to make a sugar syrup, I'd be ensuring that there was no chance of any impurities from the sugar affecting the beer right at the end... so far as I can see, that's about the only extra thumbs up that the non bottle-priming method has to offer... :whistle:

 

[broadfordbrewer]

Kyral210 / Grumpy Jack,

Thanks for this, really useful information and hadn't actually considered the fact that I am using different sized bottles for this brew... could have been interesting in the 330ml bottles!!

Can I ask though... do yuo literally mix the sugar into the brew in the second FV and then bottle immediately? or does the second FV need to be left for any period of time before bottling?

Thanks

 

[broadfordbrewer]

Hi Bri and BF.
Im following your Brewferm brewing with interest as ive got abdij (abbey) waiting to get started as soon as my fv becomes free. Hope they work well for you. :

Cheers... I'l let you know how this progresses. :drink:

 

[Grumpy Jack]

Kyral210 / Grumpy Jack,

Thanks for this, really useful information and hadn't actually considered the fact that I am using different sized bottles for this brew... could have been interesting in the 330ml bottles!!

Can I ask though... do yuo literally mix the sugar into the brew in the second FV and then bottle immediately? or does the second FV need to be left for any period of time before bottling?

Thanks

I melt the sugar into a syrup, then stir it in and you're ready to go. In my expereince it's ok to put the sugar in to the bottles neat but much better to turn it into easily mixable liquid for the secondary vessel method and then you can bottle straight away or, depending on the advice on offer from the kit, leave it for a short period... but too long and you're wasting some of that fermentation time and resulting carbonation.

 

[broadfordbrewer]

I melt the sugar into a syrup, then stir it in and you're ready to go. In my expereince it's ok to put the sugar in to the bottles neat but much better to turn it into easily mixable liquid for the secondary vessel method and then you can bottle straight away or, depending on the advice on offer from the kit, leave it for a short period... but too long and you're wasting some of that fermentation time and resulting carbonation.

Thanks for this. I'm going to melt some down as you suggest so I can be sure its all disolved nicely before I bottle it and then find all the sugar at the bottom of the FV Just like with my Weetabix!

 

[Kyral210]

You can take some of the beer into the pan, about 500ml, add the sugar, a pinch of citric acid and boil it gently for 25 minutes. This will invert the sugar and make the job for the yeasts' job easier. I know that when you do this for your beer before fermentation it gives a better beer so I guess this should do the same for priming.

As far as secondary fermenters go, when I make normal beer I will brew fully in my 1st fermenter and when it has finished I move it to my secondary, add gelatine for finings and leave it to rest for 5 days. Then I put it back into my original fomenter (3rd fermenter?), add the sugar liquid as boiled up above, and then stir, give it a few minutes to disburse and get going and then bottle.

That method makes for a very clean beer with good carbonation and the minimal amount of yeast at the bottom.

BUT when I make wheat beer I don't bother with the gelatine finings and resting as wheat beer is meant to be cloudy and have a yeast deposit at the bottom. In Germany they swirl the yeast into the last inch of beer and pour that in too.

 

[JustBri]

Greetings

Just bottled this one, a little disappointed on the OG 1014 (6.1abv), was hoping it would be lower supposed to come out at around 8%, hopefully will drop some more whilst in the bottle, i'll check og again before i taste the first bottle, 6-8wks it reckons, ill go for the 8 weeks
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JB