Are you proud to be English.

[MyQul]

I might be a bit slow on the uptake at times, but it still doesn't make sense. Hmm... I'm wondering if it's nothing more than how big the budget is to assemble teams, wherever the components for it might come from? Nah... surely not!

Its both a way (regardless of what you've outlined, which in some sense could be described as corruption, not that Fifa is corrupt *cough Sepp Blatter, cough*) traditionally weaker footballing nations are able to field a stronger team (e.g. Nation teams from half a world away fielding Brazilians). But also a way individual footballers ,who although may be pretty good in themselves but may come from a footballing superpower nation and not be able to get into the national team, can get to international tournaments

 

[mathorp]

Pride is one of the deadly sins isn't it?

I feel very privileged and thankful to have been born and brought up in a country where we have freedom of speech, even if that freedom is sometimes ironically directed back at said country. I'm not proud though.

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Spot on Steviebobs83. Pride is a dangerous thing. It tends to make people look inward in a slightly smug way, and hesitant to be self aware.

I prefer to say that I am "quietly comfortable" being English, and the same for being British. My attitude has mellowed over the years through a life spent in far flung places, living in Australia, Venezuela, Scotland, Angola, Nigeria, Thailand and even third world spots like south Louisiana. The good folks in these places are all convinced that they have the best beer, the best BBQ's, the best sports, the best fitba teams, the best army, etc. It all gets rather tedious.

What on earth is this discussion doing in a home brewing forum?

Speaking of which, I have not been impressed with the state of home brewing in Britain since my return last year. Three examples to illustrate what I mean:
1. Home brew shops with a selection of whole un-crushed grain, hops and quality yeast are hard to find. (I live in South Cumbria and have found nothing between here and south Manchester).
2. Home brew magazines? I have yet to find any, never mind a selection.
3. Home brew clubs? Not much going on.

OK, I can go online shopping. But I miss the banter with the folks who run the quality home brew shops I used to drop in to in Australia and the USA.

So, either I have been living under a rock and have not noticed the thriving home brew scene in the UK, or it is nothing to be proud of.

 

[MyQul]

Spot on Steviebobs83. Pride is a dangerous thing. It tends to make people look inward in a slightly smug way, and hesitant to be self aware.

I prefer to say that I am "quietly comfortable" being English, and the same for being British. My attitude has mellowed over the years through a life spent in far flung places, living in Australia, Venezuela, Scotland, Angola, Nigeria, Thailand and even third world spots like south Louisiana. The good folks in these places are all convinced that they have the best beer, the best BBQ's, the best sports, the best fitba teams, the best army, etc. It all gets rather tedious.

What on earth is this discussion doing in a home brewing forum?

Speaking of which, I have not been impressed with the state of home brewing in Britain since my return last year. Three examples to illustrate what I mean:
1. Home brew shops with a selection of whole un-crushed grain, hops and quality yeast are hard to find. (I live in South Cumbria and have found nothing between here and south Manchester).
2. Home brew magazines? I have yet to find any, never mind a selection.
3. Home brew clubs? Not much going on.

OK, I can go online shopping. But I miss the banter with the folks who run the quality home brew shops I used to drop in to in Australia and the USA.

So, either I have been living under a rock and have not noticed the thriving home brew scene in the UK, or it is nothing to be proud of.

This discussion is in the Snug, subtitle "This is the place for all non brewing chat". If youre viewing the forum via the newest threads page or side bar, you may not have noticed this

I think HB shops have gone the way of most shops on the high st, online. The high st in the UK is in deep, deep trouble, with a number of recent high profile collapses (Maplin, Toy r us) and well established chains like M&S posting profit losses

 

[mathorp]

This discussion is in the Snug, subtitle "This is the place for all non brewing chat". If youre viewing the forum via the newest threads page or side bar, you may not have noticed this

I think HB shops have gone the way of most shops on the high st, online. The high st in the UK is in deep, deep trouble, with a number of recent high profile collapses (Maplin, Toy r us) and well established chains like M&S posting profit losses

Thanks for the feedback MyQul.
Very true about the high street. The HB shops I have seen in other countries are not on the high street - they are in out of centre places with parking outside. For a 25 kilo sack of grain, or for a big piece of brewing equipment, the high street is not so practical.

 

[MyQul]

Thanks for the feedback MyQul.
Very true about the high street. The HB shops I have seen in other countries are not on the high street - they are in out of centre places with parking outside. For a 25 kilo sack of grain, or for a big piece of brewing equipment, the high street is not so practical.

The HB shops near me in London are not HB shops alone. They are other beer realated business' (bottle shops, HB schools,) that also sell ingredients and other bit of equipment to HBers

 

[Gunge]

I think HB shops have gone the way of most shops on the high st, online. The high st in the UK is in deep, deep trouble, with a number of recent high profile collapses (Maplin, Toy r us) and well established chains like M&S posting profit losses

20 yrs ago you could barely move in our town centre - now it's pretty much a ghost town even at traditionally busy times. What's gonna replace the shops when the last one shuts? Nightclubs cheek by jowl with food banks and a plethora of temporary employment agencies and McDonalds. And a fancy green bit in the middle named after Nelson Manbleedindella. Actually, that's how it is already.

 

[MyQul]

20 yrs ago you could barely move in our town centre - now it's pretty much a ghost town even at traditionally busy times. What's gonna replace the shops when the last one shuts? Nightclubs cheek by jowl with food banks and a plethora of temporary employment agencies and McDonalds. And a fancy green bit in the middle named after Nelson Manbleedindella. Actually, that's how it is already.

Dont forget all the charity/betting shops. In the richer areas you just have loads of estate agents

 

[Clint]

Charity shops...zero council tax,zero tax...staff either volunteer or minimum wage...directors 100k+...
Town centres are dying... Wrexham town centre used to be bustling with all kinds of shops,indoor markets and a big outdoor market once a week. Council sold the land to develop..we have now got the usual Next,Marks,bowling and cinema...the retailers moved to the new development leaving big holes in the high street.
Proud to be Welsh and part of Britain..Yes!
Country needs a good shake though it's slowly being ruined.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The HB shops near me in London are not HB shops alone. They are other beer realated business' (bottle shops, HB schools,) that also sell ingredients and other bit of equipment to HBers

Our home brew shop is a health food shop they don't stock much but do stock the essential ingredients if they didn't it would be a 16 mile round trip to the nearest town or pay silly money for overpriced postage.

 

[ElvisIsBeer]

This "demise of the town centre" is, perhaps, avoidable if large swathes of our population make fundamental changes to our lifestyle and behaviours. Stop buying stuff online that you could get in the town. Avoid out of town shopping centres. Avoid supermarkets. Support your local small shops. I suspect town centres will increasingly become areas for housing, to sustain and encourage small business ventures.

Your standard of living will probably fall a bit, and life will be less convenient, of course. Assuming it is not too late to arrest the decline, is this something that people could or would contemplate?

Of course, you've got to consider your spectrum of customers, and their spending habits - and when you do that I imagine that we're not talking about the demise of the town centre as anything more than a symptom of crushing inequality in society.

 

[Ken L]

Why does it matter where they were devised i support England because i am English.

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Conversely, I don't support the English football, rugby or cricket teams because I can't stand watching sport - but I am immensely proud of the contribution that this small island has made to global culture.

 

[Pope]

Conversely, I don't support the English football, rugby or cricket teams because I can't stand watching sport - but I am immensely proud of the contribution that this small island has made to global culture.

England isn't an island. Great Britain is.

When you say contribution, I presume you're referring to imperialism.

Unless you were involved in the contribution you speak of, why on earth would you be proud of it?

 

[MyQul]

England isn't an island. Great Britain is.

When you say contribution, I presume you're referring to imperialism.

Unless you were involved in the contribution you speak of, why on earth would you be proud of it?

Nabob KenL?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabob

 

[Saisonator]

England isn't an island. Great Britain is.

When you say contribution, I presume you're referring to imperialism.

Unless you were involved in the contribution you speak of, why on earth would you be proud of it?

You may be right there, we have personally not contributed, so we are neither responsible or culpable.
Yes I like it.

 

[Pope]

You may be right there, we have personally not contributed, so we are neither responsible or culpable.
Yes I like it.

True enough.

I don't feel shame for the atrocities English/British governments have carried out. Nor do I feel pride for their achievements. Quite frankly, neither are the result of decisions taken by me or my ancestors.

 

[Gerryjo]

Have none near me so it's online but it's either the HBC or Geterbrewed and maybe Homebrew west .
It's a PITA at times as you're always planning ahead and end up over stocking,though being over stocked at timescales have it's advantages of being able to brew quite a selection.
Really wish there was one nearby and even contemplated the idea but there would not be enough local support.

The HB shops near me in London are not HB shops alone. They are other beer realated business' (bottle shops, HB schools,) that also sell ingredients and other bit of equipment to HBers

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[reddibaggie]

I am proud to be English and indeed British.
I have served queen and country in war and in peace and I am very proud of the difference I and soldiers serving with me have made.
I come from a long line of soldiers and sailors in my family and we have all served in various countries for various governments of both colours. For better or for ill we have done our duty.
It would be an insult to my line and the soldiers with which I served to say I’m not proud.
However, the way in which our governments and in the past the general public have treated veterans has been nothing short of appalling. If it wasn’t for certain tv personalities and veterans themselves setting up charities to beg for money to help veterans we would have been left to suffer various illnesses, injuries and prejudice alone.



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[MyQul]

And today, 'The fall of the House of Fraser'. House of fraser are closing 31 of 59 stores affecting 6000 people

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44394948

 

[LED_ZEP]

In order I'm proud to be:

A Yorkshireman, European, and British.

I really don't feel English as I find that I've more in common with the Scots and Welsh I know than people from the "south" and London.

 

[Druncan]

Happily my family's got a gud Scottish heritage. W'er Geordie expats up here but it works so well.
Though we struggle with them PET's (Posh English *Watts) Usually male,,,,

Banned??? ,,,there is no misogony we are happily engaging all dietary requirements,,,