Are there any yeasts designed to work at higher temps

[linearcraig]

As some of you may have seen I'm new to brewing, and I'm quickly discovering that my house is like a sauna for yeast. :?

I'm finding it very difficult to keep a consistent temperature in the 18-21 range needed by yeast.

My next brew is going to be an Ale and I'm wondering if it possible to find a yeast that will work better at temperatures around 21-24?

thanks

 

[Ceejay]

A couple of the Belgian strains (WLP550/570) are good to those temps, but most of the English ale yeasts are going to throw some esters/fusels and stuff at that kind of temperature.

You could use a water bath (a bin or one of those flaxible caddy things) to cool things down a bit.

 

[zgoda]

Saison yeast are known to produce good results in higher temps. But beware, declared 29c is good only at later stages of fermentation, at the beginning the temp should be moderate, like 22-24c.

 

[wilsoa1111]

great info- know what i'll be adding to my yeast bank next, bit worried about it cutting out at around 8% and taking a while to get there but should be grand for my blonder beers- and it looks like it should top crop :)

 

[linearcraig]

Great thanks, so can you use this yeast with any malt. I want to try the St Johns ruby red?

 

[graysalchemy]

If you want an english style beer then you need an English yeast

I would try the water bath or water bath with a wet towel drapped over it to keep temps down. Also if you have a cold tiled or concrete floor that will also help.

It is the temperature of the wort at the begining of the fermentation first 2-3 days which is critical and finally it is the temp of the fermenting wort and not the ambient air temp that you need to be worried about.

 

[Swift Pint]

Safale-04 claims:

fermentation temperature: 12-25°C (53.6-77°F) ideally 15-20°C (59-68°F)

So if you want an english ale then could be worth trying, along with grays waterbath trick.

 

[linearcraig]

Safale-04 claims:

fermentation temperature: 12-25°C (53.6-77°F) ideally 15-20°C (59-68°F)

So if you want an english ale then could be worth trying, along with grays waterbath trick.

Right ok So I could buy the St Peters Ruby Red and put the Safale-04 yeast into that kit?

Sorry I'm just trying to get my head around this.

Thanks

 

[graysalchemy]

I would say that so-4 even though it says it can be used upto 25c in a homebrew situation I think you would run the risk of off flavours. The most critical time is when the yeast are growing and multiplying during this phase a high temp can cause them to produce Fusel alcohols or their precusors. These are the ones that cause hangovers. Some commercial breweries do ferment higher but I suspect that they pitch at a lot higher rate than we use so that the growth phase is reduced thus the amount of fusels are reduced.

My advice would be to try the water bath and wet towel trick. :thumb: :thumb:

 

[linearcraig]

I'll maybe try the bath trick.

Do you need to change the water and towel or maintain it in any way.

Or is it just drape the towel over and forget about it.

Could I take it off after the first few days, as you say thats the more temprature sensitive period.

Thanks

 

[rpt]

Some commercial breweries do ferment higher but I suspect that they pitch at a lot higher rate than we use so that the growth phase is reduced thus the amount of fusels are reduced.

So would making a starter help?

 

[graysalchemy]

I think you would need a really big starter to be honest, but also big starters also reduce the amount of esters produced as well, so not always a good idea.

Best keeping it with in 18-21c range IMHO