Metman79
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I was surprised to see Phoenix in there. I'd got the impression from Stocks that it was quite rare-only used by one brewery. On the other hand, the Alsace varieties like Aramis and Barbe Rouge don't get à look in.
You're right. Aramis, Bouclier and Triskel are all controlled by the Comptoir Agricole, who issue licenses to growers. Can't find anything on Barbe Rouge, but I expect it's the same story. Not too impressed by BR, in fact, but Aramis is great for bitters and I've got 100g of Triskel winging it's way to me as we speak. It's supposed to have all the best and more of both parents: Strisselspalt and Yeoman so I'm having a good old ponder about what type of beer to make of it.That was true of Phoenix in the early days, it's become a bit more popular among homegrowers, not least because it's very resistant to wilt. But the rhizome market doesn't bear too much resemblance to the hops that get sold - the British growers have late Wye ones like Omega and Zenith which I've never seen in a beer or as cones, and Yeoman which has high alpha and pretty good all-round disease resistance.
I imagine Barbe Rouge and Aramis are so new that they will still be covered by patents?
Do you dry them? If so how? What's the wet weight to dry weight percentage?The hops are coming on a treat now that we've got a bit of sunshine. Looked in my notes and I used them on 3rd September last year. It's going to be a couple of weeks later this year, I reckon.
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Hey mate, I can't remember the ratio from wet to dry but what I did was to spread them out on a radiator grill in my workshop allowing good airflow to the entire hop, and set a fan on low to circulate the air.... Read up on how far to dry them and it worked a treat in late August early September if I recall.Do you dry them? If so how? What's the wet weight to dry weight percentage?
Do you dry them? If so how? What's the wet weight to dry weight percentage?
Up until now, I haven't dried them, I've put them straight from the bine into the beer as late hops in three different beers, one each for Cascade, Centennial and Challenger. While this produces a lovely beer, Centennial, in particular, is quite amazing as it gives a perfume to the beer. This year I planted 4 new rhizomes: three of Calais Goldings and a Fuggle so I might have a go at drying them. I see that N B, below, reckons on a ratio of 7:1 wet:dry, my book (American) says 5:1. I suppose if you're growing hops in Arizona then 5:1 is OK.Do you dry them? If so how? What's the wet weight to dry weight percentage?
Now we're talking. Are those hops on the right of the photo, too? I can't quite make out whether there are cones at the top. What a smashing garden, even a sunflower at the bottom. I'll bet Bill and Ben are lurking somewhere behind the greenhouse.Got a few cones on my cascade and Chinook. I grow them for shade cover mainly tho!
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You could try here, Anna, although they don't appear to stock pioneer. Hops Everything is out of stock because it's not the season for hop rhizomes. Late winter/early spring is the right time.After reading about hop growing in Scotland https://www.hutton.ac.uk/sites/default/files/files/publications/Hops in Scotland - A Rough Guide for Growers/files/assets/common/downloads/publication.pdf
I'm wondering about incorporating a hop bine into our back garden, in particular Pioneer which has a max height of 8
I guess they ship abroad. I don't know if Brexit will have affected that, though.
Is it that bad an idea? i thought the movement of plant material was regulated by phytosanitary certificates and the like. As an aside, here's an abstract from a response I had from a hop grower in New Zealand replying to my enquiry about whether they could send rhizomes for Tangerine Dream as I hadn't seen them listed anywhere. I think this abstract from their reply pretty much sums it up. They're not availble in pellets, either.I know you're just trying to be helpful, but that's a terrible idea, regardless of Brexit - just on principle you really don't want to be moving plant material internationally, to avoid the risk of spreading pests and diseases. And in practice, it's very tightly regulated - in fact plant health is one of the very few things that has exemptions to the free movement of goods within the common market. And that's before you get to the new customs problems.
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