An interesting article on the BBC website
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bobsbeer
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Good read. :thumb:
Titus A Duxass
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Thanks.
It was worth reading.
It was worth reading.
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Not sure about the beer cocktails though :nono: :nono:
rpt
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Interesting. So US craft beer was inspired, in part, by British beer. Now some British brewers are inspired by US beer. I'm certainly partial to an APA.
None of this affects the fact that the majority of beer drunk in both the US and the UK is fizzy lager piss produced by large multinational corporations.
None of this affects the fact that the majority of beer drunk in both the US and the UK is fizzy lager piss produced by large multinational corporations.
morethanworts
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Good article, thanks. I'd deduced from the size of activity on American forums that craft brewing must be big over there Googling anything often ends up on one of their threads!
I had an APA the other night from our local Scarborough Brewery, which I guess shows how the influence has perhaps gone full circle. The style is not my cup-of tea, though it tasted like a well brewed pint.
Let's hope the brewery tours do well from American tourists, keen to see the origins of another bit of their history.
I had an APA the other night from our local Scarborough Brewery, which I guess shows how the influence has perhaps gone full circle. The style is not my cup-of tea, though it tasted like a well brewed pint.
Let's hope the brewery tours do well from American tourists, keen to see the origins of another bit of their history.
BreadMurderer
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Good read.
I recently joined CAMRA and did wonder why the "craft beer" movement wasn't involved in this organisation. They did have a piece in their quarterly newspaper that discussed the issue.
"According to Camra, beer should be left to ferment "live" in casks.
Craft beer, by contrast, is often pasteurised in kegs with added nitrogen or carbon dioxide - a technique which makes traditionalists shudder."
I understand the process differs in what they support/promote but ultimately in my eyes they both fight for the same thing, non-*****-beer. :
I recently joined CAMRA and did wonder why the "craft beer" movement wasn't involved in this organisation. They did have a piece in their quarterly newspaper that discussed the issue.
"According to Camra, beer should be left to ferment "live" in casks.
Craft beer, by contrast, is often pasteurised in kegs with added nitrogen or carbon dioxide - a technique which makes traditionalists shudder."
I understand the process differs in what they support/promote but ultimately in my eyes they both fight for the same thing, non-*****-beer. :
I'm a long term Jamil show and TBN listener so was well aware of the US craft movement but it's good to see it getting more attention.
A well made craft brew albeit in a cask doesn't make me shudder at all.
As BM said they both have the same objectives.
A well made craft brew albeit in a cask doesn't make me shudder at all.
As BM said they both have the same objectives.
The statement on artificial carbonation and pasteurisation in kegs is largely unfounded.
Most of kegged beer is fermented in pressurized tanks and go into kegs already carbonated, this lowers manufacturing costs. Pasteurization is done in-flow, not by heating kegs full of beer. This way is much more precise and less PU (pasteurization units) is required to stabilize beer, effectively cutting production costs and changing the beer flavour much less than old method.
Most of kegged beer is fermented in pressurized tanks and go into kegs already carbonated, this lowers manufacturing costs. Pasteurization is done in-flow, not by heating kegs full of beer. This way is much more precise and less PU (pasteurization units) is required to stabilize beer, effectively cutting production costs and changing the beer flavour much less than old method.
Loetz
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zgoda said:
We need a 'like' button on this forum.
A lot of the 'craft' kegs are closer to real ale than the 'bright racked' casks you get from the bigger breweries who at the moment have sucesfully coned CAMRA in to thinking its real ale.
Fullers I believe filter and 'condition' the beer in tank before racking it bright and then add a small amount of yeast so it remains a 'real ale' by camra standards. This does provide a consistent product and less returns but hardly resembles the nature of cask 'real' ale.
Marstons / Wychwood use the 'fast cask' system which is similar in its nature. I think every small brewery approaches it differently so a blanket claim cant be put on all.
If it tastes good.. who cares? :thumb:
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Fullers I believe filter and 'condition' the beer in tank before racking it bright and then add a small amount of yeast so it remains a 'real ale' by camra standards. This does provide a consistent product and less returns but hardly resembles the nature of cask 'real' ale.
Marstons / Wychwood use the 'fast cask' system which is similar in its nature. I think every small brewery approaches it differently so a blanket claim cant be put on all.
If it tastes good.. who cares? :thumb:
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Stihler
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That was an interesting article.
Thanks for sharing it!
- Scott
Thanks for sharing it!
- Scott
When we got married on Cape Cod last year, we were amazed at home many craft beers the pubs and bars had.
When I was in Florida about 7 years ago, it didn't matter where you went, it was all fizzy *****. The only half decent beers were British or Guinness.
In the whole Boston area, most pubs have an unusual ale - even in the Hard Rock Cafe they had a choice of ales.
When I was in Florida about 7 years ago, it didn't matter where you went, it was all fizzy *****. The only half decent beers were British or Guinness.
In the whole Boston area, most pubs have an unusual ale - even in the Hard Rock Cafe they had a choice of ales.
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You can usually get american craft beer at the Euston Tap. They have a very good selection of beers from all over .
bunkerbrewer
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Highly recommended. The staff usually know their beers too, which always wins lots of points from me. (I doubt any bar owners read this forum, but please, please train your staff!)
Anyway, rant over. This bar is right outside the station, so if you're passing through London via Euston, change your plans so you can spend an hour in there :)
(Completely agree with what's being said on this thread, BTW)
I agree Wezil. CAMRA would be much better off trying to encourage microbreweries and independents rather than being pedantic about how beer should be brewed.
pittsy
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snobs come to mind , i don't give a rats about how , who , why as long as it's great beer in my glass that's all that matters to me .
