A Great Man has passed away

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Tim_Crowhurst said:
I'll remember him as a man who learned from his mistakes. I can't think of many other politicians who've shown that particular ability.
That's correct.... :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
BarnsleyBrewer said:
Would it have been the same if Bin Laden would've chosen peace instead of terror towards the end??

I think the answer to this has to be no. Mandela was fighting for freedom, democracy and respect for all. Not something I recall Bin Laden striving for, no matter the methods. But this isn't the place for such a discussion.
 
bobsbeer said:
BarnsleyBrewer said:
Would it have been the same if Bin Laden would've chosen peace instead of terror towards the end??

I think the answer to this has to be no. Mandela was fighting for freedom, democracy and respect for all. Not something I recall Bin Laden striving for, no matter the methods. But this isn't the place for such a discussion.
Just a thought Bob, nothing more...

Same all over the world with British/American illegal occupancy of other peoples countries... Same in the far east..

As I said Mr Mandella was a great man that freed people from oppression in they're own countries.. Bit like Yassar Arafat tried in Palestine with Israel.
 
I suppose South Africa was very straight forward and easy to understand. It was very Black & White, pun intended. But unlike other conflicts where a minority or even a majority are/were striving for freedom from oppression, democracy and respect, is that religion was not the driving force. But I can see where you are coming from.
 
bobsbeer said:
BarnsleyBrewer said:
Would it have been the same if Bin Laden would've chosen peace instead of terror towards the end??

I think the answer to this has to be no. Mandela was fighting for freedom, democracy and respect for all. Not something I recall Bin Laden striving for, no matter the methods. But this isn't the place for such a discussion.

I think if anyone shows genuine remorse after serving the punishment for their crime in full and wants to make a positive contribution to society then they should be allowed to do so, no matter how heinous the crime. That's the whole concept of rehabilitation. Of course there are those who will never be rehabilitated, but that should be judged on the individual, not the crime. And of course some, like Bin Laden, would be serving the punishment for the rest of their lives, had he not been killed.
 
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