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blackdouglas

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Decided to give this one a try as my third brew. 1st was wherry, 2nd Cooper's real ale + enhancer 2. Both partial disasters but drinkable.

Think I nailed this one though, I know exactly what I am doing now (I think)

SP I measured to be between 1036 and 1038, hard to tell. I think that's about right. Added the yeast when the temperature was about 25 degrees, from the stick on thermometer on the side. kit says it should be stored at 18-20 while fermenting but nothing about what temp to add the yeast, so I went along the guidelines from the Cooper's instructions which said anywhere between 18 and 32 was fine, the important thing is to add it as soon as possible. This one said to add 3.5L of boiling water then top up with cold say maybe it wants to be a bit warmer. Added 3.8, and used the last 0.8 to dissolve the remaining contents of the two cans and get it all out, first poured it in one, then stirred it and then into the other and stirred it, seemed to get pretty much all of it out. I think in previous brews the temp was a little low so wanted to err on the side of warm this time, presumable it will start chemically reacting and reach an equilibrium temperature so I think it will be fine. Smelled good, wild rabbits in the garden were sitting outside looking in the window after I prepared it.

Got it in the cupboard wrapped up in winter jackets and stuff now.

While I was brewing I listened to the latest album from Angus Stone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY3Prdm_H6E

After about 1 hour temperature still sitting at 25 degrees, is that good or bad? I'll find out

6 hours- now reading 24 degrees
 
Good work, hope it goes well.

32 is way too high. You're really looking at 18-24c for fermentation with most ale yeasts, aim for that as much as possible. Fermentation itself will kick up the temp a few notches, like you say. You can pitch at higher temps (25 is fine,) providing it's on its way down and it's not too high that it'll kill the yeast (I'd never pitch at 35!) Yeast acts differently at different temperatures, high and low ranges give different flavours.

:cheers:
 
OK so hopefully 25 wasn't too high that it killed the yeast then. I was following a stick on thermo on the side.

It's not sitting at 23 degree.

I take it's ok to monitor the SP daily or should I leave it a few days first?
 
SP? Do you mean SG (sugar gravity?)

If you mean SP I have no idea. :party:

SG, leave it for a few days whilst it's obviously fermenting. If you've got a good krauzen (foamy head,) airlock going, it's pretty safe to say it's fermenting. You will want to leave it a few days after fermentation anyway to clean up a bit.
 
Ah yes :? I thought it stood for specific gravity? or does it as well...

Just had a quick look inside, very nice foamy head making the lid swell. Had a quick whiff of it as well, smells nice, really hit me on the back of the throat.
 
Still sitting at around 23/24, should I take the blankets off it or leave it as it is?
 
Probably take the blankets off if the temperature is constant in there and won't drop much at night. It's fine, but maybe a little warm.

SG is specific gravity :p you're right there. Glad it's going well. Don't drink it yet. :p
 
I will try to exercise restraint this time, last time was good for future reference though :ugeek:
 
Opened the blankets up a bit earlier, it's now sitting at 23 and the foaminess has subsided. Would it be suffice to say at this point that I may begun fermentation at slightly too high a temperature and inadvertently accelerated the fermentation process? If so should I take a reading of the SG and maybe barrel it sooner or leave it as long as it is supposed to be?
 
It will speed up fermentation, my sundew finished in 2 days because of the humidity! But it won't spoil your beer, it's just not ideal, so no worries.
 
Monkeybrew said:
Just leave it be for 2 weeks, it knows what it is doing.

2 weeks?

Temp down to 21 now, foam almost disappeared. Will take an sg reading later.
 
Temp is now down to 20. Just measured the SG = around 1015.

Also tasted it, and it tastes really nice, bitter, full bodied, fruity, caramely like the kit said it would. Kit says barrel once SG is below 1014 so will keep an eye on it over the next couple of days.

Now I have to resist the temptation to start supping it before it's even ready again

If it stays at 1015 or not much below 4 then according to the calculation that equates to alc/vol = 3.5%

Bit on the low side. As long as it's not completely ruined. If it tastes this good now then should be alright I would guess.
 
Temp now 18, SG=1014. Will give it another couple of days and barrel it.

Is it normal to have sediment on the top like this at this stage, or is this an indication that it may not have fermented properly?

Need a few more of these under my belt, can't afford to mess this up

It's a good colour anyway

U22dz.jpg
 
blackdouglas said:
Temp now 18, SG=1014. Will give it another couple of days and barrel it.

Is it normal to have sediment on the top like this at this stage, or is this an indication that it may not have fermented properly?

Need a few more of these under my belt, can't afford to mess this up

It's a good colour anyway

U22dz.jpg

My wherry looked like this after 11 days and finished fermenting, so proceeded to barrel. Never seen that in any other kit, but it was my first 2 can kit. So I'd say it's either a traight of Woodfordes kits, or 2 cans. Or, we both battling earlier than supposed to lol...
 
11 days for initial fermentation?

Didn't do this with the wherry on my first brew, would like to know if anyone knows what this is
 
blackdouglas said:
11 days for initial fermentation?

Didn't do this with the wherry on my first brew, would like to know if anyone knows what this is

Yup. Would've preferred to leave it at least 14 days, but was going away, so wanted to get it barreled and another started whilst away...

As for what it is,I think it's just clumps of yeast. Have you tasted it? My wherry still tasted great! Looking at yours, you have more, bigger clumps. But, could be because your brew is younger?! How long has it been fermenting?
 
3 days. Started it off a little high temp. (see rest of thread)

what do you mean used it? tasted it yesterday and it was very palatable
 
blackdouglas said:
3 days. Started it off a little high temp. (see rest of thread)

what do you mean used it? tasted it yesterday and it was very palatable

Using phone, and auto correct didn't like my writing. Had edited it, but obviously not quick enough :grin::eek:

It will need at least a week, but I'd personally try to leave out at least 10 days, so that the yeast can try and clean up after itself...
 

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