Which one Boris or Andrew?
Who is More Sleazy - can you help me decide?
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Brianbrewed
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Aw flip, hard to decide.
Their both top notch sleaze bags.
I had to go for Andrew, the statutory rape (allegedly) pushes him over the edge.
Their both top notch sleaze bags.
I had to go for Andrew, the statutory rape (allegedly) pushes him over the edge.
Yes difficult choice I agree - not paying for an alpine villa as per his contract, plus hiding behind a secret agreement made by a convicted paedophile - pretty classy
Come on someone else make the case for BJ being the sleaziest
I guess because his incompetence led directly to the death of thousands of people? Incompetence caused by a sense of entitlement and that the position he occupied was because of right rather than any desire to serve.
aamcle
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We could offer a deal the US keeps Andrew and we will throw in BoJo as a sweetener then they give us Ann (of the hard to spell name) who ran down the young man on the motorbike.deal
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I voted for Boris.
Being a republican, I don't add any special value to the royal family and BoJo on the other hand runs the country, so I gave him a heavier weight.
Being a republican, I don't add any special value to the royal family and BoJo on the other hand runs the country, so I gave him a heavier weight.
aamcle
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Bojo cause he can do more harm. The other one doesn't matter just a celeb famous for being famouse..
ScotchMist
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Oooh, this is tough! I'm voting for BJ - we only know of one victim in Andrew's case, where as the PM won't even admit how many children he has...
Say what you like about 'Boris', he's prolific.
Say what you like about 'Boris', he's prolific.
If those two are your worst, consider yourselves lucky. We have the all-time-all-history champion sleaze (though he's far worse than that) and he got voted in as president. Doesn't say much for half our population.
My perception of those two mentioned, I would vote Andrew.
My perception of those two mentioned, I would vote Andrew.
Regards Andrew....is he being done for sexual assault or rape? Or is the same in the US?
Lawyers for the woman accusing Prince Andrew of sexual assault are seeking testimony from two people in the UK, according to court documents.
Virginia Giuffre's legal team want Robert Olney, the prince's former assistant, to provide a statement.
They also want one from a woman who says she saw the royal in a London club with a young woman, around the time Ms Giuffre says she was abused in 2001 after he visited the club.
The duke has repeatedly denied claims.
Earlier this week, the 61-year-old prince failed in his attempt to have the US civil case dismissed.
Judge Lewis Kaplan, who is hearing the case in New York, has asked for witnesses' evidence to be taken by lawyers by 14 July and said a trial could take place in court later this year.
In letters submitted to the Royal Courts of Justice in London, her lawyer David Boies has requested two individuals in the UK provide evidence.
Seeking testimony from Mr Olney, who is the prince's former equerry, the letter says Ms Giuffre has reason to believe he has relevant information about Prince Andrews's relationship with convicted child sex offender Epstein.
This is because Mr Olney's name appears in publicly-available copies of Epstein's phone book, lawyers say.
The other letter seeks testimony from Shukri Walker.
The documents say Ms Walker has stated in the press that she was a potential witness to Prince Andrew's presence at Tramp around the time Ms Giuffre says the royal abused her in London after visiting the club. They note Prince Andrew, the Queen's second son, has denied being at Tramp on the night in question or having ever met Ms Giuffre.
Meanwhile, the prince's lawyers want to question his accuser's husband, Robert Giuffre, and her psychologist Dr Judith Lightfoot, who both live in Australia.
Witness accounts are being sought and they would both be requested to be examined under oath in person or by video-link, according to court documents.
The development comes after Buckingham Palace announced on Thursday that Prince Andrew's military titles and royal patronages have been returned to the Queen.
"The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen," the palace said in a statement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60005128
Virginia Giuffre's legal team want Robert Olney, the prince's former assistant, to provide a statement.
They also want one from a woman who says she saw the royal in a London club with a young woman, around the time Ms Giuffre says she was abused in 2001 after he visited the club.
The duke has repeatedly denied claims.
Earlier this week, the 61-year-old prince failed in his attempt to have the US civil case dismissed.
Judge Lewis Kaplan, who is hearing the case in New York, has asked for witnesses' evidence to be taken by lawyers by 14 July and said a trial could take place in court later this year.
- Who is Prince Andrew and what titles is he losing?
- Who is Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre?
- What's next for Prince Andrew?
- Ruthless royals move to limit Andrew damage
In letters submitted to the Royal Courts of Justice in London, her lawyer David Boies has requested two individuals in the UK provide evidence.
Seeking testimony from Mr Olney, who is the prince's former equerry, the letter says Ms Giuffre has reason to believe he has relevant information about Prince Andrews's relationship with convicted child sex offender Epstein.
This is because Mr Olney's name appears in publicly-available copies of Epstein's phone book, lawyers say.
The other letter seeks testimony from Shukri Walker.
The documents say Ms Walker has stated in the press that she was a potential witness to Prince Andrew's presence at Tramp around the time Ms Giuffre says the royal abused her in London after visiting the club. They note Prince Andrew, the Queen's second son, has denied being at Tramp on the night in question or having ever met Ms Giuffre.
Meanwhile, the prince's lawyers want to question his accuser's husband, Robert Giuffre, and her psychologist Dr Judith Lightfoot, who both live in Australia.
Witness accounts are being sought and they would both be requested to be examined under oath in person or by video-link, according to court documents.
The development comes after Buckingham Palace announced on Thursday that Prince Andrew's military titles and royal patronages have been returned to the Queen.
"The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen," the palace said in a statement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60005128
ScotchMist
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Sexual assault and battery.
NB it's a civil case, so he's being sued - no chance of jail time or anything.
ScotchMist
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Everything's bigger in America!
To be fair, these ones are far from our worst - they're just the most newsworthy rn.
...at least you got to vote for said scumbag (looking at you, Prince Andrew).
We're embarrassingly bad at voting in a sane manner but it is what it is.
There needs to be some sort of sanity-plus test here. Weed out the naïve, the gullible, etc., and not just the crazies.
ScotchMist
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Well, at least America's bad politicians are obviously crazy... I sometimes think that the problem we have is that people think things need to change, but then keep voting for more of the same thing over and over again.
'Ooh, but it'd be much worse if X got in!'
Boris is guilty for sure by his own admission. We have yet to see about Andrew, so I voted for Boris.
Plus Boris set the rules and then thought he could disregard them whilst everyone else suffered.
My wife is a paediatric nurse. She saw parents that couldn't visit their dying children in their last moment because of Boris's rules while he was laughing and drinking with his mates at an illegal party. This wasn't happening just at the hospital where she works but at hospitals, hospices and care homes all over the country and for people that were dying for all reasons and not just covid specific deaths.
The man's a ******* ****.
Plus Boris set the rules and then thought he could disregard them whilst everyone else suffered.
My wife is a paediatric nurse. She saw parents that couldn't visit their dying children in their last moment because of Boris's rules while he was laughing and drinking with his mates at an illegal party. This wasn't happening just at the hospital where she works but at hospitals, hospices and care homes all over the country and for people that were dying for all reasons and not just covid specific deaths.
The man's a ******* ****.
On a pedantic note, it's not Prince Andrew anymore, just Andrew...
Though if it was necessary to narrow it down, Nonce Andrew would do.
Though if it was necessary to narrow it down, Nonce Andrew would do.
Prick Andrew will do...just a nanagram.
There's tons of celebrity pedophiles out there, Andrew is nothing special. But Boris is a monumental embarrassment. Even with his great power (and great responsibility) he's managed to **** it right up.
I'd love to see him go but all the potential replacements make me dream of Theresa throwing her hat back in the ring, which shows you how desperate I am.
I'd love to see him go but all the potential replacements make me dream of Theresa throwing her hat back in the ring, which shows you how desperate I am.
I agree with you although I didn’t like Treeze, largely because of what she did to the police service. However I think , possibly naively, that she was basically honest. Johnson, on the other hand, is a well documented liar who has conned the whole country on numerous occasion.There's tons of celebrity pedophiles out there, Andrew is nothing special. But Boris is a monumental embarrassment. Even with his great power (and great responsibility) he's managed to **** it right up.
I'd love to see him go but all the potential replacements make me dream of Theresa throwing her hat back in the ring, which shows you how desperate I am.
