what WOW is best

[Chippy_Tea]

WOW wa-wa-wee-wa, orange WOW :sick: , i think as chalk that one up as a swing and a miss.
I have a apple+mango and a Pomegranate + blueberry on the go that smell fantastic. let see if there better than orange.

I think the orange wow is an acquired taste, I wasn't keen but it was good enough to get me hooked and the pomegranate one I made next was excellent.
Are you using WGJ in the next ones?

yes 1L of 100% WGJ

I have made several gallons of apple/mango + WGJ and Pomegranate + WGJ and both are excellent, let us know how how the Pomegranate/blueberry + WGJ turns out. :thumb:

 

[dave0w]

Well i can report i need to retry all the wow's i have made and slagged off.

on Monday i stabilized my Pomegranate + blueberry + W grape juice wow and it was rank as hell. but i added finings anyway.
it ended up a cloudy bad tasting wow and i was sad

today i made a new degassing tool and went to town on the wow, then i added 500ml of WGJ to sweeten and WOW is the word. i am going to give it some more time degassing and add finings again.

Chippy_tea i can report that Pomegranate + blueberry + W grape juice is very nice.

i used:
1L Pomegranate & blueberry
1L Pomegranate
1L WGJ (next time i will try red GJ)
1KG Sugar
5ML Glycerine
1TS Nutrient
1TS Dried active yeast
Added 500ml WGJ after fermenting to sweeten.

I didn't do readings i just ferment till the bubbles stop.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Next time add tannin it makes a lot of difference.
Make a 3 tea bag brew (black) and stir it every couple of minutes for 15 minutes as you get your WOW started then add it with the other ingredients.
I also noticed you didn't add pectolace, that is probably why it ended up cloudy.

I have added your recipe to the supermarket juice wine recipe and WOW variant thread (last post on page) viewtopic.php?f=41&t=39846&start=300

 

[dave0w]

I will try with pectolace and tanning next time.
i have just had two 500ml glass and it good stuff

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Let us know how you get on. :thumb:

 

[tonyhibbett]

I used a recipe for white burgundy, using 2 litres of grape 1 of orange, plus elderflowers for bouquet and honey instead of sugar, which turned out very well. Honey was always expensive and the cost is going up. It does add a subtle effect on the flavour, as drinkers of mead well appreciate. I used dried elderflowers which had nothing like the effect of fresh ones, which were out of season at the time. In retrospect, elderfower flavoured mineral water would have been better.
The extra grape juice gives extra body, tartaric acid and enough tannin, while making the orange less pronounced. Orange juice has some drawbacks. It is opaque, which slows down clearing, and contains citric acid, which is not present in grape wine and also gets used up, partially at least, during fermentation. Once you have taken away the sugar and some of the acid, you are left with a flavouring agent which is unrecognisable from the original fruit.
Glycerine did not feature in the recipe, but could be added as a non fermentable sweetener if you don't like bone dry white wine.

 

[Mikhail Bulgakov]

Will the wow method work with just grape juice?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I have never tried it but this has been asked before, the answer is no, grape juice you buy in supermarkets is not the same as using real grapes.

 

[tonyhibbett]

Certainly using just red grape juice to make red wine is no good, but has anyone actually tried pure white juice with a bit of sugar and no water, with a decent yeast and oak chips? If not, I'll give it a try. At 95p per litre (Aldi) it certainly works out cheaper than concentrate and who is to say which grape varieties are used for concentrate in kits, unless specifically stated, and even then it's not 100% pure varietal. It may even be worthwhile making a 'basic' white and adding a bottle of one's preferred commercial brand for a bit of 'authenticity.'

 

[Chippy_Tea]

It will be interesting to see how this works out, as i said above someone in the forum answered a member saying it does not turn out well so i assumed they had tried it, i look forward to hearing your review. :

 

[Padster]

Certainly using just red grape juice to make red wine is no good, but has anyone actually tried pure white juice with a bit of sugar and no water, with a decent yeast and oak chips? If not, I'll give it a try. At 95p per litre (Aldi) it certainly works out cheaper than concentrate and who is to say which grape varieties are used for concentrate in kits, unless specifically stated, and even then it's not 100% pure varietal. It may even be worthwhile making a 'basic' white and adding a bottle of one's preferred commercial brand for a bit of 'authenticity.'

My hubby used to live in a certain dry Middle Eastern country, and lots of people in his compound made their own wine, including him. They always used just white grape juice, he said it was very drinkable!

 

[tonyhibbett]

English wine is expensive, but a found a white one in Aldi for £4, so I gave it a try. It was very bland. I imagine that wine from purely 'supermarket' juice would taste like that, which is certainly the case for red. hat distinguishes good wine grapes from dessert grapes is not only the higher levels of sugar, acid and tannin, but hints of other flavours, such as citrus fruits and apple. All of these can be added in fairly small quantities to make a bland wine more interesting.