Using Gelatine to clear a brew??

[Dieseljockey]

Ok guys,
I did a AG brew 4 week ago, just a IPA it's turned out taste wise OK, in fact I love it. It's been outside in the outhouse now for 10 days, got it all ready last Sunday morning. Now I can't get it to clear and I wanted to keg most of it and bottle a few.

Well I've been looking on the net, (must say I've never had it happen this bad before) about using Gelatine to help clear it. The thought of where Gelatine comes from I'm not all that sure that it's something I want in my brew.

So what do you guys think?, or do if you have this problem.

 

[graysalchemy]

I use it all the time. It doesn't stay in the brew it precipitates out. Very easy to use just get your self half a piece of gelitine leaf add some boiled water cooled to 80c to it and stir then stir into the beer it works a treat. I never seem to need to use it I find the best aid to clearing beer is a cold concrete floor it chills the beer naturally and the sediment drops out.

 

[Dieseljockey]

That's what I do GA...in the outhouse on the floor, never no problem. This brew is one of the best I ever done and I don't want to waste it, but I also don't want to bottle like this. I did read that it all drops to the bottom of the FV.

I did get the Gelatine out the cupboard last night when I got home, as the memsahib is always using it on puddings and the like.
Then something just didn't feel right and that's when I thought I'll ask on the forum and see. So come Friday night it's the jelly job for it.

 

[anthonyUK]

Looking at most clearing agents they are not something you'd think you'd want to put in beer or wine. Dried fish swim bladder, egg white, extract of crustacean shell :shock:
I have used gelatine before and just half a sheet in 20l is noticeable to me. It doesn't change the taste but the viscosity slightly which I must be sensitive to.
I use the cooling method now and allow a bit more time.

 

[Hawks]

I use gelatine regularly with US-05 yeast as I find that the only one that can struggle to drop out as clear as I like.

For all others I use time and cool :thumb:

 

[graysalchemy]

If you are doing it right the gelitine will drop out with the sediment and you will have no taste or feel if you are not doing it right Ie disolve it at to higher temp then you will get jelly and it won't attract the yeast and drop out. :thumb:

 

[Mark1964]

we used to use it but since we got the herms system no need it clears fine without it

 

[BarnsleyBrewer]

Hi DJ. :thumb:
Is it yeast or could it be a protein haze :hmm:
When I brew blonde ales with loads of hops I seem to get a slight haze because of the hops, think it's a known thing "Hop Haze"

 

[anthonyUK]

If you are doing it right the gelitine will drop out with the sediment and you will have no taste or feel if you are not doing it right Ie disolve it at to higher temp then you will get jelly and it won't attract the yeast and drop out. :thumb:

Sorry GA could you explain that again please. Do I need a higher or lower temp to dissolve it? It only seems to dissolve above a certain temp.

 

[graysalchemy]

Very easy to use just get your self half a piece of gelitine leaf add some boiled water cooled to 80c to it and stir then stir into the beer it works a treat.

Needs to be 80c to sterilize it but not boiling as when you boil it will set into jelly and lose its ion attraction properties

 

[anthonyUK]

Cheers. That is what I did in the past.
Same info as here - viewtopic.php?f=30&t=7278
I'll stick with the cooling method unless pushed for time.

 

[Dieseljockey]

I use gelatine regularly with US-05 yeast as I find that the only one that can struggle to drop out as clear as I like.

I also used US-05, first time I've ever used it and now this.

Is it yeast or could it be a protein haze :hmm:
When I brew blonde ales with loads of hops I seem to get a slight haze because of the hops, think it's a know thing "Hop Haze"

Hi John...long time matey...

Yeast or protein haze, wish I new, never had anything like it before.
This brew was big on the hops..(think Hoping Hare) never used this amount of hops, so could be that.

 

[BarnsleyBrewer]

Yeast or protein haze, wish I new, never had anything like it before.
This brew was big on the hops..(think Hoping Hare) never used this amount of hops, so could be that.

I bet it is, I suffer from the same problem if I go above 55 IBU's on a blonde ale..

BB :drink: