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I look around on the net for homebrewing stuff and a couple of sites have mentioned the UK Homebrew association but i can find anything else about it. Does anyone know anything about it? Is it an offshoot of the American Homebrew association? Does it even exist?
 
its a thing being set up by HoppyBrewerUk and a few others, they are trying to improve the uk homebrew scene as apart from this and jim's forums there isn't really anywhere else people can go for brewing advice. hoppy brewer is registered on this site, on twitter and there is also a twitter page for the Uk homebrew association, @UK_HBA. Big Gav is a sound guy, I've spoke to him on skype and on his live broadcasts on a Friday night and I am sending him a few beers down to try. I think they are looking at introducing a homebrewing magazine which I think would be good but it's going to take a **** load of work. the more folk that get behind it the better!
 
We have the Scottsh Craft Brewers up this way, and UK wide Craft Brewing Association - the name 'homebrew' seems to be perceived to have negative associations for some who maybe remember poor results from kits of old.. anyway, 'craft' brewing seems to be the winning terminology to attract people to the hobby :thumb:
 
I have been thinking about joining the craft brewers association but with the above replies I have just found out I have a choice of 3 groups to join.

I think I will wait for a bit to see how things pan out before parting with my cash.
 
I do know Hoppy brewer is seeking permission before posting on here, so Wait and they'll be an annoucment :thumb:
 
Only yesterday I was thinking that a homebrew mag would be a great idea. I do know about the craft brewers, have looked at the site, but this homebrew association is new to me...great idea if it gets off the ground.
 
I'm curious what a magazine can offer that extremely successful forums can't :hmm:

If someone can provide something different that makes it worthwhile then great, more power to them!
 
I seem to remember years ago there was a weekly/monthly ? newspaper for Home Brewing... Can't remember much about it now. I don't think there's anything published now for wine/beermaking
 
BYO seems popular across the pond. I would buy a Homebrew magazine as I think it could complement what happens on the forums.

I buy both retro rides and practical performance car mag both have a large online presence and popular magazines so it can be successful. I just wonder if it a good idea of 3 groups all premoting the interests of homebrewers in the UK. One singer one song.
 
piddledribble said:
I seem to remember years ago there was a weekly/monthly ? newspaper for Home Brewing... Can't remember much about it now. I don't think there's anything published now for wine/beermaking
You would be thinking about Amateur Winemaker . . . .and Brewer . . . Which was published by Andover Press . . .The owner of which was one CJJ Berry and which folded around 1985. Since then there has been an attempt at a quarterly paper from the retailers which was funded by advertising . . . this too folded due to cut backs in advertising revenue.

I've been trying to stay out of this one as I don't want to see negative, but I do have some experience of trying to bring about an 'evolution' of home brewing in the UK.

It is important to remember that there are significant differences in the approach to the hobby by UK and US brewers. In the US the AHA is a commercial organisation with upwards of 50 staff, which is funded primarily by its retail activities (Brewers Publications and the NHC) along with subscriptions from home brewers, they also recieve significant advertising revenue from Zymurgy. . . This I feel is driven by the fact that in the US people tend to spend significantly higher on their hobbies than we do in the UK, plus there is more of a 'joining' culture in the US as a whole (Just look at the number of clubs and associations they have) which is not reflected here in the UK.

Let us consider the sate of play here in the UK, we currently have

The Homebrew Retailers Association (Trade)
National Association Of Winemakers and Brewers (mostly based around wine circles)
Craft Brewing Association (UK) Produce a Quarterly Magazine available to subscribers, Assist regional clubs with holding the CBA National Homebrew Competition, Plus also help with other competitions run by local groups under their own rules.
Scottish Craft Brewers
UK Home Brewing Association Who want to start a revolution in Home brewing

Forum Wise we have

UK Homebrew - Originally a mailing list, now with a web forum, but has more or less died a death
Jims Beer Kit - Really took over from UKHB as people were more web savy and Mailing lists were seen as old hat Active with 9000 Members
The Homebrew Forum - An alternative to JBK with a different 'feel'. Active with 7000 members.

The CBA has just started it's own members only forum for the discussion of brewing related topics. No offence guys but the signal to noise ratio on the public forums is very low, which contributes to a feeling of not being able to find the advice you need in 'one place'. One thing that the CBA is considering as time goes by is to build the forum information, plus Brewers Contact articles into a Wiki, and then to publish a collaborative book . . . but to do that we need a lot of input from members.

I found this Blog post interesting. I too would love to see a home brewing magazine in the shops, but without an understanding of how the magazine retail trade works you could be spending a lot of money to go nowhere (for example if you have 50 issues in a shop and only sell 5 . . . you have to buy back the other 45!!) . BYO and Zymurgy in the US have the advantage of being heavily supported by advertising (as well as subscription), and most of their 'retail' sales go through LHBS, this is something that the CBA is looking into at the moment, but these things take time, especially when you only have a very small group of people involved who also have other lives. . . if you had paid staff then all sorts of innovations could be tried much more rapidly . . . but then you become a business and do things for a profit, rather than for members.

Since last year the CBA has become much more member focussed and doing things for members, but with only 5 committee members willing to stand up and actually do things it is a slow evolution. (If anyone is interested in the posts of Chairman, Membership Secretary, Secretary, Treasurer, and Group Liason Officer please contact me or the CBA committee - of course in order to do so you would have to be a CBA member . . . but that is only the case of coughing up 15 quid :D )
 
Yno, the recession might just be the fertiliser that is required to get a home brew magazine off the ground. Add in the minimum price per unit that HM Govt are imposing on the supermarkets and pubs and making it yourself, making it WELL yourself, becomes attractive.

Whether it would be able to offer any more than a forum such as this is the $64,000 question.

Magazines also lack the dynamism of a forum, a letters page once a month just doesn't cut it compared to a response to a question within a few minutes.

The concept of a craft brewer's association is a bit of an anathema as well, what benefit would there be to the home brewer, by being registered with an association? We get discount on stuff by being forum members, that's free...

I guess I'll have to wait for anyone involved to give answers to the questions posed above :D
 
TRXnMe said:
Yno, the recession might just be the fertiliser that is required to get a home brew magazine off the ground.
Providing you don't rely on advertising or sponsorship . . in a recession they are generally the first to go

TRXnMe said:
Magazines also lack the dynamism of a forum, a letters page once a month just doesn't cut it compared to a response to a question within a few minutes.
until you get three responses in 10 minutes telling you to do different things ;) . . . Certainly with Brewers contact articles do get peer reviewed, and Members/subscribers can always ask questions in the CBA forum for clarification.

TRXnMe said:
The concept of a craft brewer's association is a bit of an anathema as well, what benefit would there be to the home brewer, by being registered with an association? We get discount on stuff by being forum members, that's free...
CBA Members get a discount on entering the National Homebrew Competition, plus we are trying to negotiate discounts with retailers for CBA members. If our plans of having a conference also come off, then members will get discounted rates for that as well.

Why on earth would you detest or loathe an organisation that is dedicated to improving the art and craft of brewing at home :wha: :wha: :wha:

CBA Constitution said:
The aims and objectives of the club will be:
  • To inform, educate and encourage brewers and the wider public about brewing.[/*:m:164q5048]
  • To encourage the formation of local groups of brewers, for face to face meetings and
    discussions about brewing.[/*:m:164q5048]
  • Publicise the work, news and activities of the association through a regular journal.[/*:m:164q5048]
  • Publicise the association through all media formats.[/*:m:164q5048]
  • To promote the club as being the UK's national home brewing organisation.[/*:m:164q5048]
  • To ensure a duty of care to all members of the club.[/*:m:164q5048]
  • To provide all its services in a way that is fair to everyone.[/*:m:164q5048]
  • To develop the club in line with members’ views.[/*:m:164q5048]
  • To encourage and support members responsible use of alcohol[/*:m:164q5048]
TRXnMe said:
I guess I'll have to wait for anyone involved to give answers to the questions posed above :D
One thing I will say is that the responses we had to a questionnaire last year, and the majority of respondents wanted to use the term Craft rather than Home, as home brewing has fairly nasty connotations for a lot of people outside of the hobby.
 

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