Supermarket Juice Wine How To guide and Recipes.

[El Draco]

How long should i leave it before the racking, campden and stabiliser additions?

My plan was to leave it another week or so until the fermentation has stopped then rack etc then leave for another couple of week before a final rack and bottle or is that too much?

Once fermentation has finished leave it for 7 days then rack into a sterile DJ onto a crushed campden tab, add stabiliser and finings if required, once clear you can age it in the DJ under airlock or bottle it.

I forgot to add if you don't want fizzy wine you need to degas, you can shake it and release the gas which i found hit and miss at best or you can make a wine degassing wand that fits into a cordless or corded drill which reduces the time to about a couple of minutes, video here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMwq3TpkqCE

vaccum cleaner? looks like herny's going to get sloshed :lol: Think ill try the plastic coat hanger.. was going to shake it up 7 or 8 times..

Wait until it's stopped, it'll slow down a lot and in my book one bubble from the air lock in 45 secs is stopped enough for me.
Then I rack it off into a similar size demi, add campden and stabiliser and give a couple of brisk shakes to de-gas. (check video's to see this)
If you find more sediment rack off again, if not then allow to clear, however long that may take. Bottle.

Damn, chippy beat me to it. lol

cheers mate... think you have to get up early in the day to beat quick draw mc'chippy :lol:

 

[aneray]

For the first time in a couple of years I started a WOW at 5pm this evening using Lalvin EC-118 Champagne yeast. I took the sugar level up to 1080 with a view to getting a wine of 11% so I can try sparkling it at a later date.

Only two hours later it has half an inch of foam on top and its currently bubbling at 13 bubbles a minute. This must be one of the quickest starters I have had ever.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Wait until it's stopped, it'll slow down a lot and in my book one bubble from the air lock in 45 secs is stopped enough for me.
Then I rack it off into a similar size demi, add campden and stabiliser and give a couple of brisk shakes to de-gas. (check video's to see this)
If you find more sediment rack off again, if not then allow to clear, however long that may take. Bottle.

Damn, chippy beat me to it. lol

cheers mate... think you have to get up early in the day to beat quick draw mc'chippy :lol:

:lol:

 

[Chippy_Tea]

For the first time in a couple of years I started a WOW at 5pm this evening using Lalvin EC-118 Champagne yeast. I took the sugar level up to 1080 with a view to getting a wine of 11% so I can try sparkling it at a later date.

Only two hours later it has half an inch of foam on top and its currently bubbling at 13 bubbles a minute. This must be one of the quickest starters I have had ever.

What juice did you use?

I started 3 DJ's of apple/Raspberry and WGJ last night and they are now bubbling at one bubble every 45 seconds, its now only 15c in the kitchen (was in the high 20's in summer) so i am expect they will take an extra day or two to finish.

 

[acott]

I'm going to give WOW a go, but I have a newbie question :)

If I wanted to make cranberry and apple, I would mix 1ltr of white grape juice plus 500ml of apple and 500ml of cranberry (not forgetting all the other ingredients) ?

Sorry if this is pretty obvious :? , and thank you in advance for any advice!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I'm going to give WOW a go, but I have a newbie question :)

If I wanted to make cranberry and apple, I would mix 1ltr of white grape juice plus 500ml of apple and 500ml of cranberry (not forgetting all the other ingredients) ?

Sorry if this is pretty obvious :? , and thank you in advance for any advice!

Hi acott, welcome to the forum.

If the apple juice is 100% juice it will be fine, if the cranberry is not 100% juice it may not taste much of cranberry when it is finished, you could try 1 litre of WGJ + 1 litre of 100% apple juice and then add the 500ml of cranberry on day 3 or 4 of fermentation so the wine does not lose too much of the cranberry flavour.

Tesco do a range of apple juice which is 90% apple then 10% of another flavour, my favourites at the moment are 1 litre of apple/mango and 1 litre of WGJ and 1 litre of apple/raspberry and 1 litre of WGJ.

 

[acott]

I'm going to give WOW a go, but I have a newbie question :)

If I wanted to make cranberry and apple, I would mix 1ltr of white grape juice plus 500ml of apple and 500ml of cranberry (not forgetting all the other ingredients) ?

Sorry if this is pretty obvious :? , and thank you in advance for any advice!

Hi acott, welcome to the forum.

If the apple juice is 100% juice it will be fine, if the cranberry is not 100% juice it may not taste much of cranberry when it is finished, you could try 1 litre of WGJ + 1 litre of 100% apple juice and then add the 500ml of cranberry on day 3 or 4 of fermentation so the wine does not lose too much of the cranberry flavour.

Tesco do a range of apple juice which is 90% apple then 10% of another flavour, my favourite at the moment is 1 litre of apple/mango and 1 litre of WGJ and 1 litre of apple/raspberry and 1 litre of WGJ.

Thanks very much, i'll give this a go :)

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I have edited my earlier post to say -

my favourites at the moment are 1 litre of apple/mango and 1 litre of WGJ and 1 litre of apple/raspberry and 1 litre of WGJ.

When I read it again before editing it looked like I was saying put all four litres together in one DJ but its actually two separate recipes.

 

[acott]

I thought it was like a fruit punch Thanks for clearing that up Chippy, think ill give the apple/raspberry a go!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Sounds like a good plan, let us know how you get on.

 

[Padster]

Let us know how you get on. :thumb:

Will do!

So I finally started off an apple/raspberry wine yesterday, going well so far! It's bubbling away like a good'un and I can't stop opening the cupboard to watch it and giggling like a child with a new toy :lol: My hubby thinks I've gone a bit mad!

Just one question - the Apple/Raspberry juice I bought was 88% Apple and 5% Raspberry puree. Is this enough Raspberry flavour? It was the highest juice content I could find.

Don't think it will be long before I start off another one, might go with the original orange this time. Just need to find a better source of WGJ - could only find 750ml cartons in Tescos (everything else was 1ltr cartons!) so had to buy two.

Thanks for all the help so far guys!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

The tesco ones I am using are 90% apple and 10% raspberry, I end up with a wine that people have described as white wine with a hint of raspberry, I don't want alcopop so this is perfect.
I think you will find its fine even at 5%, if its a litle weak try something like a cranberry or a pomegranate juice that is close to 50% juice in your next one with WGJ, these are very popular wow variants.

 

[Padster]

Thanks Chippy.

 

[acott]

Hey chippy, do you still use the same amount of sugar with the apple and raspberry variant? 800g

 

[Chippy_Tea]

y chippy, do you still use the same amount of sugar with the apple and raspberry variant? 800g

When i started i used to use 800g in everything, i then read on the forum that you should aim for a total sugar content of 1100g, subtracting what is in the cartons from 1100g gives you the total you need to add to get roughly 13% alcohol.

I have now dropped this to 1000g which is roughly 11% as Mrs Tea found it too strong and to be honest i haven't noticed the difference.

 

[bobsbeer]

Just picked up some Aldi Winter Punch Juice. They had 2 different types. The other was mainly orange, but as this was apple based, I thought I would give it a try. The carton says "Product does not contain alcohol". We can soon see about that. Planning on turning it into alcohol next week. The ingredients are:

Apple juice from concentrate 40%
Apple juice 34%
Grape juice 10%
Sour Cherry juice 4%
Elderberry Juice from concentrate 2%
Water
Ascorbic acid (Anti-oxidant)
Flavouring - Not specified
Total sugars - 113g per lt

 

[acott]

y chippy, do you still use the same amount of sugar with the apple and raspberry variant? 800g

When i started i used to use 800g in everything, i then read on the forum that you should aim for a total sugar content of 1100g, subtracting what is in the cartons from 1100g gives you the total you need to add to get roughly 13% alcohol.

I have now dropped this to 1000g which is roughly 11% as Mrs Tea found it too strong and to be honest i haven't noticed the difference.

Many thanks chippy, I went for the apple and raspberry variant you suggested! All mixed up in the PET, looking forward to some bubbles :party:

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Let us know how it turns out. :thumb:

 

[Chippy_Tea]

simkin posted -

Just bottled this tasty little WOW, and on my 3rd 'taster' glass :shock: :

2 litres WGJ
I litre ASDA Pomegranate drink
700 gms sugar
Nutrient, tannin, citric acid, pectolase, lalvin all-purpose yeast
About 55p a bottle! :)

Just like a pomegranate TC I just did, the wine has a lovely, syrupy mouth-feel and a nice touch of sweetness( probably the added sweeteners in the pom drink ). The pomegranate juice must be responsible for the smooth mouth feel; the wine is loaded with glycerin though none extra added. So much if the glass is tilted then righted the film actually forms 'dribbles' on the glass. Good vinosity and a good one to quickly knock up. A slightly blush white in the glass, though ruby in the DJ.

This will not last long

 

[Robbo]

Because of another drought of WGJ, I'll try a Pomegranate with welches white grape and peach, there is plenty of those.

With fruit juices my two favourite are Pomegranate with White Grape Juice and Blueberry With Red Grape Juice