Stout & Maltodextrin powder

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And if you use golden syrup, supermarket own brand squeegy bottles are best because they are cheaper than T&L and you can easily measure out quantities compared to pouring from a tin.

Definitely leaning towards this over black treacle. Have saved your recipe for future reference. Will look at steeping grains and adding hops as others have suggested at a later stage (once I've been paid again!)
 
I think the reason home-brewers used it years ago was down to "association" alone - you'd get a very dark beer in a pub and someone would say "that tastes treacly", but it doesn't, it's just black

Yeah I'm inclined to agree. Off all the beers I've had in the past I've never got a "treacly" vibe but that could be my abused taste buds!
 

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