Steralized bottles

[cask is best]

Can anyone advise me if i put my bottles in the dishwasher on the hottest setting 75c will this be enough for the bottles when the dishwasher has cleaned them to syphon the beer in the bottles without using a sterilizing solution.
Just thought it would save all the hard work putting solution in and all the rinsing out etc.

 

[dennisking]

Personally don`t think I`d risk it.

 

[luckyeddie]

75 degrees is not hot enough. You can sterilise in a dishwasher if in excess of 80 degrees is used, but you must then use the bottles immediately. Bacteria / airborne yeasties may start to contaminate them immediately.

Not worth risking it.

 

[cask is best]

Thanks for the advise Guys. I was going to use them straight away. But as you both said it's not worth risking.

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[Runwell-Steve]

Get yourself some Starsan and a bottle washer, as long as your bottles are clean then a quick rinse with a Starsan solution and you will ready to bottle.

 

[doghouse gav]

+1 on the star San and bottle washer. Been fantastic for me. :)

 

[nickmcmechan]

put them thorugh a wash cycle at 75C when you use them (i.e. after drinking)

when you are getting ready to bottle put sterilising solution in the bit where the dishwasher tab/powder goes and stick the bottles through a full cycle

hey presto cleaned and sterilised bottles while you sit with your feet up and the OH is happy cause you are doing it to clean the dishwasher at the same time :whistle:

 

[cask is best]

Good idea. Should get me some crafty brownie points

 

[MikeB]

Are the chances of infection not pretty much eradicated once the beer has finally fermented? Is a clean bottle not simply enough? I mean it does have alcohol in it...

Playing devil's advocate here as I bottled two 23l batches today and sterilised every one, rinsed etc. Took bloody ages But it did get me thinking: if the bottle was clean to begin with surely a rinse in some hot water is all that's needed?

 

[luckyeddie]

Alcohol is no guarantee against infection until you get up to very high concentrations. Many wines are around 12-14%, and they can get infected. Typical beer strengths (4-10%) is no protection whatsoever.

Bottle washing is a pain - this is where having a wife who likes beer comes in handy.

 

[keith1664]

Alcohol is no guarantee against infection until you get up to very high concentrations. Many wines are around 12-14%, and they can get infected. Typical beer strengths (4-10%) is no protection whatsoever.

Bottle washing is a pain - this is where having a wife who likes beer comes in handy.

Eh?

I wouldn't mind if she only washed the wine bottles!

 

[cask is best]

Took a chance with a 75c dish wash put sterilizing solution in the dispenser bottled ready for drinking and no ill effects probably the best brew i have ever made.

I do dish wash the bottles straight after i use them then store them so they are clean

 

[Hollow Legs]

Get yourself some Starsan and a bottle washer, as long as your bottles are clean then a quick rinse with a Starsan solution and you will ready to bottle.

Excuse my ignorance here, but every time I look at Star San it says that you have to use 'how' water or bottled water or something like that and I really want to try the no rinse solution especially after doing a double bottling this weekend, can you advise me please as what water to use and what this 'how' water is.

Thanks in advance peeps :

 

[keith1664]

Starsan is acidic and is meant to remain so once diluted. If you live somewhere with hard water (like I do) your water is alkaline and will neutralize starsans acidity rendering it useless.
If you have soft water then you can use this fine, if you don't then you can either use deionised / demineralised or RO (Reverse Osmosis) water... or do the simple thing and buy Tescos Ashbeck mineral water at 92p for 5 litres. This also gives you a continuous source of placcy demijohns.

Where did you get "how" water from?

 

[anthonyUK]

The dishwashers we've had tend to cloud any glassware after a while so I wouldn't use it myself at least not on a full wash cycle.

 

[Hollow Legs]

Where did you get "how" water from?

it was when I was also looking at Chemipro Oxi this is how it is advertised, looking at it with sober eyes I realise it is a typo for the advert on Brupak site and should read hot water.

"Chemipro OXI cleans and disinfects by means of active oxygen. Mix 4 grams into 1 litre of how water. Soak for 4 – 5 minutes and allow to drain. Vessels should be turned upside down if possible and left until dry. Chemipro OXI is also a very effective cleaner of kitchen equipment such as deep fat fryers, baking trays etc. For this purpose, contact time should be increased to several hours. Burnt fat etc. just lifts off."

Thanks for the explanation Keith :