Steep/Hop Stand Help

[jafski]

Re-posting this in the correct place!

Hi all,

Bit of advice needed if anyone can help.

Planning ahead to do a Jaipur Clone, this one supposed to be good:

Beer Name IPA Comparison Brew (Sara Carter Bombay IPA Jaipur Clone)

Competition Sutton Festival 2008 Overall Winner

Brewer Various

Beer Type India Pale Ale

Original Gravity 1052 (per original recipe)

Final Gravity 1010 (per original recipe)

Brew Length 25 litres

Malt Schedule 5950gms Pale Malt (Maris Otter Low Colour)

198gms Vienna Malt

Other Ingredients

Hop Schedule 75 mins

13gms Northern Brewer (10.5%)

12gms Centennial (11.7%)

10gms Amarillo (9.5%)

45 mins

12gms Northern Brewer (10.5%)

12gms Centennial (11.7%)

10gms Amarillo (9.5%)

30 mins steep @ 100C

48gms Northern Brewer (10.5%)

48gms Centennial (11.7%)

36gms Amarillo (9.5%)

Boil Time 75 mins

Yeast 22gms Nottingham

EBU Bitterness 56

ABV 5.6 (per original recipe)

My question is over the 30 minutes Steep Hops at 100'C.

This I understand from a bit of digging about is a Hop Stand at flame out for 30 minutes, as opposed to Flame out Hopping where you turn off the heat, add the hops and turn on your chiller.

So the 100'C bit is what's confusing me. Does the recipe simply mean that you add the hops at flame out and turn the chiller on after a 30 minutes hop stand? Surely it doesn't mean hold the temperature at 100'C for 30 mins, that would just make the boil 105 minutes long and that addition be a 30 minute boil addition. Or does it just mean it's a 30 minute addition in the 75 minute boil?

Basically, HELP!

Also is 2 packs of Nottingham overdoing it for 25l?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Sadfield]

I'd read it as Flame Out, add hops and leave for 30 minutes letting the temperature drop naturally, then cool to pitching temperature.

The dosage stated on Nottingham packets is 0.5-1g/L, so 22g sounds right if you want a quick start and clean fermentation.

 

[Pawlo7671]

Flame out = hops at flame out then chill right away
Hop stand = hops at flame out, leave 20 - 30 mins then chill

 

[jafski]

Thank you both, was edging towards that thought but nice to have it confirmed. Cheers!

 

[The Idiot]

As they have said with the hop stand. Personally I'd go with one pack of Nottingham, rehydrated. Two is overkill and won't add anything. Nottingham is a fast starter anyway.

 

[geetee]

For steep hops I usually turn off the elements, turn on the chiller and drop the temp to less than 80°C and then add hops . I let this stand ,with stirring, for 20 -30 minutes and then chill and allow to settle before transfer to FV.

I have made the same recipe and one pack of Nottingham worked fermenting in 4- 5 days.

 

[peebee]

As "geetee"...

If I'm going to be bothered with this "flame-out" business I attempt to get as much as possible from it and chill to 80C, add the hops, and 30 minutes later proceed with the chilling.

 

[jafski]

OK thanks. Do you put the lid back on the boiler during the hop stand to help prevent potential infection?

 

[geetee]

OK thanks. Do you put the lid back on the boiler during the hop stand to help prevent potential infection?

Mainly to keep flies out but also stirring intermittantly!

 

[jafski]

Thanks so much everyone. Much appreciated.

 

[foxbat]

Looks like a nice recipe but it's not Jaipur. The hops and grain are both wrong. Check out this from a guy that had a brewday with Thornbridge.

 

[jafski]

Looks like a nice recipe but it's not Jaipur. The hops and grain are both wrong. Check out this from a guy that had a brewday with Thornbridge.

Wow, somewhat different.

Will still try that other recipe, but as you say nothing like Jaipur. Then I'll do that Jaipur but get some Magnum in as opposed to what the guy did.

Cheers!