Some ideas for a lager beer?

[NottsBrew]

Hi.

I'm going to be throwing a homebrew party soon. Personally I don't like lager and purely drink ales.

My friend - who I would really like to come to the party - only drinks lager.

I don't want to go through the low temperature lager making process.

I was wondering if anybody has ideas about making a quick low strength lager in the ale style. Ideas pertaining to malt, hops and especially yeast would be welcome. Any other thoughts you want to add would be welcome too.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Dads_Ale]

You can make a very good lager clone using basic lager malt, single temp mash (66c), Saaz hops and ferment with US05 at 18 to 20c.
I will post the recipe later when I get back home.

 

[terrym]

Hi.

I'm going to be throwing a homebrew party soon. Personally I don't like lager and purely drink ales.

My friend - who I would really like to come to the party - only drinks lager.

I don't want to go through the low temperature lager making process.

I was wondering if anybody has ideas about making a quick low strength lager in the ale style. Ideas pertaining to malt, hops and especially yeast would be welcome. Any other thoughts you want to add would be welcome too.

Thanks in advance.

My suggestion
Buy in the lager for him/her.
That way they gets what they want, and you don't have to drink stuff you dont much like when the party has passed.
You could also try them with one of your home brewed ales, they might even be converted. :thumb:

 

[foxbat]

Hi.
I was wondering if anybody has ideas about making a quick low strength lager in the ale style. Ideas pertaining to malt, hops and especially yeast would be welcome. Any other thoughts you want to add would be welcome too.

What @Dads_Ale said except Kolsch yeast instead of S-05. CML do a dried version if you want to avoid the time and expense of a liquid yeast.

 

[JapanBrew]

Sorry, always listen to Dad. S-05 is the closest to a clean, dry yeast. And it is dry and cheap. Saaz hops or any German hop will get you close.
But if you truly hate lagers then listen to Terry. If it's somewhat ok, then brew and the left overs gift out and or MIX. I love mixing brews. The taste is not what you think.

 

[Dads_Ale]

Here is the latest recipe:

35 litre final volume

Lager malt - 6kg
Wheat malt - 200g
Carapils - 200g

Mash at 66c for 90mins

Saaz hops - 45g - 60mins
Irish Moss - 5g - 15 mins
Wai iti hops - 20g - 15 mins
Bitter Orange Peel - 50g - 15 mins
Saaz hops - 20g - 5 mins
Wai-iti hops - 20g - 5 mins
Saaz hops - 25g - 0mins

Yeast - US05 - 18 - 20c

Og - 1048
FG - 1006
ABV - 5.6%

You can play around with the hops as much as you want and add more or less grain dependant on what ABV you are looking at
I originally did a stepped mash (50c/15mins then 65c/60mins) which gave a more pilsner type flavour

 

[JapanBrew]

See, listen to dad. Mom would definitely win an argument but since I haven't seen any member on this forum named mom, dad wins.

 

[Clint]

I've recently done pseudo lager using lager malt a bit of carapils and made up the volume with a Wilko cerveza single can. I used two packets of wilko gervin yeast and fermented at 14°c. Tried a bottle last night and it is lager! Tastes really good. ..used saaz and crystal hops.

 

[Dads_Ale]

See, listen to dad. Mom would definitely win an argument but since I haven't seen any member on this forum named mom, dad wins.

Ha.:)

I will get back to you with the rather disturbing film I got my nickname from :)

I blame my so called mates but as you say 'Dad knows best' :lol:

 

[GlentoranMark]

I'd just buy a kit. He'll either like it or not.

Back to my own lager days, I've drank everything from Harp, Carlsberg, Tuborg, Carling etc. Moving from 1 to the other was horrible but once you got 1 down your neck, the next the beer tasted well. If he's nothing else to drink he'll like it after the first pint. Serve him it really cold though, that always improves a lager.

 

[Gunge]

I don't like lager much and certainly can't be bothered with the faff of making it properly, but last Sunday I was overcome with the desire to make something 'lagerish', probably just as a change from the usual fare. Anyways I went with:

2750g pale
550g flaked rice
100g flaked barley (for head purposes!).

270g sugar
30g Ultra - 60mins
30g Ultra - 0mins.

Brewed as an ale using CML California Common.
19C.
OG 1046.
It's still in fermenter and will be for another 2 weeks. Ain't got a clue how it'll turn out but it'll go down the hatch regardless.

 

[NottsBrew]

Here is the latest recipe:

35 litre final volume

Lager malt - 6kg
Wheat malt - 200g
Carapils - 200g

Mash at 66c for 90mins

Saaz hops - 45g - 60mins
Irish Moss - 5g - 15 mins
Wai iti hops - 20g - 15 mins
Bitter Orange Peel - 50g - 15 mins
Saaz hops - 20g - 5 mins
Wai-iti hops - 20g - 5 mins
Saaz hops - 25g - 0mins

Yeast - US05 - 18 - 20c

Og - 1048
FG - 1006
ABV - 5.6%

You can play around with the hops as much as you want and add more or less grain dependant on what ABV you are looking at
I originally did a stepped mash (50c/15mins then 65c/60mins) which gave a more pilsner type flavour

Looks like a fine brew Dads_ale. Might just give it a go.

 

[Grizzly299]

Lager doesn't have to take a long time to make. My latest lager turned around in just under a month using the Brulosophy fast lager technique. I put it on corny keg at a 30th Birthday party and nobody could believe it was homebrew.

Someone said it tasted like Fosters, I was a little offended, but my goal in making it was to produce something accessible to non-beer enthusiasts so I succeeded in that respect.

Anyway 38 pints disappeared in around 4 hours, so I was very pleased. If you fancy the recipe then feel free to PM me.

 

[MyQul]

You could just make a cream ale, which is an American light crisp ale, very lager like but use something like saaz or hallertau mittelfrauh instead of the usual American hops. Gunge's reciepe is essentially a cream ale, except Americans usually use flaked maize but flaked rice does exactly the same thing

 

[chthon]

Did you know that bock and doppelbock are also lagers?

 

[Duxuk]

I've done 3 Saisons this year. I love a wheat beer so the more wheat the better for me. The secret is to get the right yeast.I used Mangrove Jacks French Saison M29 each time. It munches up just about anything to leave a clean, dry taste. It can be brewed at 32C or higher but my best brew was made in cooler conditions at around 20C. This seemed to leave a tiny hint of sweetness.
My first version started at 1054 but dropped to 1003 giving , if I recall correctly 6.7%ABV!
I used 5kg of malt each time, with an overnight mash. A mix of lager and wheat malts to your taste is all that's needed. I used 30g of Hallertauer Blanc for sixty minutes as my hop.

 

[Zephyr259]

I'm with MyQul, I immediately thought of a cream ale, not had one though so can't say from experience.

 

[Pawlo7671]

+1 for the CML kolsch yeast, it makes a very convincing lager clone

 

[Clint]

I hope to get a brew on later today after a morning pickling stuff...
A quick perusal of the brew box reveals I have just over 4 kg of lager malt,some carapils and some crystal...NO PALE! Oh there's a bit of wheat and some dark stuff for a stout...hops are a bit thin too...I do have 100g of simcoe;150 of citra and 50 of saaz...I might do a very light blonde type thing with the lager;carapils a bit of wheat and some dextrose...use both the simcoe and citra...

 

[Zephyr259]

Lager malt, carapils and wheat sounds like a good base for a lager style blonde ale. If you were being traditional the saaz is perfect but you'd probably have to do a small batch if you've only got 50g. Simcoe and citra will give a more characterful beer but would that put off your lager drinking mate?