Rye

[Wez]

With my next brew I want to try to get a similar grain bill to Batemans Combined Harvest which uses Pale, Wheat, Oats & Barley, i'm thinking

Pale 92%
Wheat 3%
Oats 3%
Rye 2%

The beer is a nice golden colour

Does anyone have experience of using Rye and can maybe offer advice on it's max use?

 

[Vossy1]

Up to 20% according to the H&G, never used it myself.

EDIT, but it depends what Rye malt you are using according to Brupaks here

 

[Wez]

Cheers V :thumb:

If anyone has used this i'm keep to know your thoughts :thumb:

 

[Aleman]

I made a smoked Black wheat rye beer a couple of years ago which was something like

50% Rauchmalz
22% Wheat Malt
22% Rye Malt
5 % Carafa Special III

I really enjoyed it, it was really nice.

Using that much wheat and rye means you are going to get a huge amount of glucans meaning a stuck mash is likely, So I mashed the wheat and rye separately at 35C for 30 minutes then heated it up to 65C and added it to the main mash for 60 more minutes.

 

[Franklin]

I'm interested in Rye, I've got some Rye malt, Roasted Rye and Crystal Rye... and a few ideas.

I've made a Rye Stout with the Crystal and Roasted, its not quite ready to drink yet but sneaky tastes say its going to be pretty interesting.

The (extract) recipe: *this was also kind of a user-upper as I've gone AG now*
Rye Stout

Fermentables:
Hopped DME Light 10 EBC 1 lbs. 1.6 oz 500 grams 30.7%
Dried Malt Extract Pale 10 EBC 0 lbs. 15.8 oz 450 grams 27.6%
Dextrose Monohydrate 0 EBC 0 lbs. 7.0 oz 200 grams 12.3%
Caramalt 20 EBC 0 lbs. 5.3 oz 150 grams 9.2%
Roasted Barley 1220 EBC 0 lbs. 5.3 oz 150 grams 9.2%
German Roasted Rye Malt 450 EBC 0 lbs. 3.5 oz 100 grams 6.1%
Crystal Rye Malt 150 EBC 0 lbs. 2.8 oz 80 grams 4.9%

Hops:
Liberty Whole 4.9 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 0.9 oz 25 grams 50%
Liberty Whole 4.9 % 15 mins 0 lbs. 0.9 oz 25 grams 50%

Final Volume: 12 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.041
Final Gravity: 1.013
Alcohol Content: 3.6% ABV
Total Liquor: 16.7 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 38 EBU
Colour: 160 EBC

Other possible ideas are:

A Take on Oblivious' (over at JBK, not sure if he's here)
Roggenbier

Fermentables:
Rye Malt 8 EBC 5 lbs. 10.2 oz 2560 grams 43.7%
Maris Otter 4.25 EBC 5 lbs. 2.2 oz 2330 grams 39.8%
Wheat Malt 3.5 EBC 1 lbs. 1.6 oz 500 grams 8.5%
German Cara Red 50 EBC 0 lbs. 14.4 oz 410 grams 7%
Belgian Aromatic Malt 55 EBC 0 lbs. 2.1 oz 60 grams 1%

Hops:
Fuggle Whole 4.9 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 1.1 oz 31 grams 100%

Final Volume: 23 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.054
Final Gravity: 1.013
Alcohol Content: 5.4% ABV
Total Liquor: 34.2 Litres
Mash Liquor: 14.7 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 14.7095270509105 EBU
Colour: 18 EBC

Pale Wheat and Rye

Fermentables:
Crystal Malt, Pale 60 EBC 0 lbs. 0.0 oz 0 grams 0%
Rye Malt 8 EBC 0 lbs. 10.5 oz 300 grams 9.1%
Wheat Malt 3.5 EBC 2 lbs. 3.3 oz 1000 grams 30.3%
Maris Otter 4.25 EBC 4 lbs. 6.5 oz 2000 grams 60.6%

Hops:
Challenger Whole 7.6 % 90 mins 0 lbs. 1.4 oz 40 grams 50%
Cascade Whole 5.7 % 15 mins 0 lbs. 1.4 oz 40 grams 50%

Final Volume: 23 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.032
Final Gravity: 1.007
Alcohol Content: 3.2% ABV
Total Liquor: 31.6 Litres
Mash Liquor: 8.3 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 51 EBU
Colour: 5 EBC

Rye Red Ale

Fermentables:
Maris Otter 4.25 EBC 9 lbs. 14.6 oz 4500 grams 74.9%
Rye Malt 8 EBC 1 lbs. 15.6 oz 900 grams 15%
Crystal Malt 120 EBC 0 lbs. 15.8 oz 450 grams 7.5%
German Cara Red 50 EBC 0 lbs. 5.6 oz 160 grams 2.7%

Hops:
Northdown Whole 8.3 % 60 mins 0 lbs. 1.9 oz 55 grams 50%
Aurora Whole 8.1 % 30 mins 0 lbs. 0.5 oz 15 grams 13.6%
Cascade Whole 5.7 % 10 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 18.2%
Cascade Whole 5.7 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 18.2%

Final Volume: 23 Litres
Original Gravity: 1.057
Final Gravity: 1.014
Alcohol Content: 5.6% ABV
Total Liquor: 34.3 Litres
Mash Liquor: 15 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75 %
Bitterness: 55 EBU
Colour: 29 EBC

Just ideas you understand I'm lacking experience in brewing.
:)

 

[Wez]

Thanks for those :thumb:

 

[Reviled]

Ive used Rye a few times, i did a Roggenbier with 50% rye which was like engine oil but devine! Brewed as a wheat beer but personally as im not a fan of wheat phenols I think it would have been better done with a lager yeast!

But the best Rye beer I did was an IPA with 20% rye and it was devine!!! Added an extroadinary 'oily' mouthfeel to the beer and extra body! The subtle spicy rye flavours and aromas worked well with the fuggles hops I used...

Rye is great!!! Use it, now :thumb: lol