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I've got bottles everywhere but thinking of getting a pressure barrel for storage (because it's a bit of a pain spilling everything on the floor and bottling). But also for batch priming in the barrel. Don't know anything about them though and never batch primed either. But surely must save time and effort. Does the beer last as long in them as in bottles?
Hi Andy they are more convienent than bottles but I believe the beer doesn't last as long, I have heard people say 6 months so a beer say for Christmas or barbys fine, if it's a beer you want to keep bottles, also I never prime with more than 90grams of sugar so really only good for ale's which I like, also you have to keep an eye on the seals on the cap and tap and use vasaline on them, I was looking at the cornys today at Leyland not a bad price but when you add on taps lines and gas and a fridge it strarts adding up
 
I have a pb that I've not gotten around to using yet - let me know how you get on with it. I have a handpull and planning on making something to drink at my birthday with a few friends, but think most people will be going for the corny kegged beers. Will see.



Price is OK but depends on what you get. For brand new that is OK, but reconditioned is quick pricey. Can get them for £50, or even cheaper if happy to sort them out yourself.
Hi crowcrow for a party they ideal you can keep your cornys hidden away with the good stuff in them lol
 
Hi crowcrow for a party they ideal you can keep your cornys hidden away with the good stuff in them lol
Ha indeed. In terms of cost for a corny, you then need to find cash for the taps, lines and regulator - about £90, and then the gas. Mine was £110 for bottle and first fill, £10 for 6kg of liquid co2 in tbe future. So with the freezer it was pushing £450 - and plus I've now got to buy the next set of taps and lines for the 2nd keg. Man it adds up. Fun though and I've been getting bits slowly since Feb.
 
Ha indeed. In terms of cost for a corny, you then need to find cash for the taps, lines and regulator - about £90, and then the gas. Mine was £110 for bottle and first fill, £10 for 6kg of liquid co2 in tbe future. So with the freezer it was pushing £450 - and plus I've now got to buy the next set of taps and lines for the 2nd keg. Man it adds up. Fun though and I've been getting bits slowly since Feb.
I think that will me be soon a bit at a time, like you say though it's fun and it keeps me busy being retired bottles are good but a pita when you have to wash em and stuff acheers.
 
Hi guys was thinking of brewing this in the morning any advice welcome
ipa
English IPA
Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 21.0
Total Grain (kg): 5.200
Total Hops (g): 80.00
Original Gravity (OG): 1.055 (°P): 13.6
Final Gravity (FG): 1.014 (°P): 3.6
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.40 %
Colour (SRM): 9.1 (EBC): 17.9
Bitterness (IBU): 40.5 (Tinseth)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
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4.000 kg Maris Otter Malt (76.92%)
1.000 kg Munich I (19.23%)
0.100 kg Crystal 120 (1.92%)
0.100 kg Flaked Oats (1.92%)
Hop Bill
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50.0 g Challenger Leaf (6.1% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (2.4 g/L)
10.0 g Target Leaf (9% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
20.0 g Citra Leaf (11.1% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (1 g/L)
Misc Bill
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Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 20°C with Danstar Nottingham

Recipe Generated with BrewMate
I am also going to dry hop it with some more citra, yeast I have gervin and us-05
 
Hi Rod, there's a good foundation there for an English IPA though I do have a couple of comments if you don't mind.

1. Citra is a very potent American hop that doesn't really belong in an English IPA. I would replace it with something like EKG or more Challenger. And ramp it up 50g or so.

2. Bit controversial maybe but I'd sub 5% of the MO for sugar to bring down the FG to keep it dry and hop forward like an IPA should be.
 
I don't mind at all Foxbat, I have 100g of challenger so yeah I could do that, I also have 50g of brambling cross could I use them for bittering instead of the challenger leaving more scope for dry hopping , good idea on the sugar something I never think about with all grain, how does this look
New Recipe
English IPA
Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 21.0
Total Grain (kg): 4.950
Total Hops (g): 74.78
Original Gravity (OG): 1.054 (°P): 13.3
Final Gravity (FG): 1.012 (°P): 3.1
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.46 %
Colour (SRM): 8.8 (EBC): 17.3
Bitterness (IBU): 40.2 (Tinseth)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
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3.500 kg Maris Otter Malt (70.71%)
1.000 kg Munich I (20.2%)
0.250 kg Dextrose (5.05%)
0.100 kg Crystal 120 (2.02%)
0.100 kg Flaked Oats (2.02%)
Hop Bill
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45.7 g Challenger Pellet (6.1% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (2.2 g/L)
9.1 g Target Leaf (9% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.4 g/L)
20.0 g Challenger Leaf (6.1% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (1 g/L)
Misc Bill
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Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 20°C with Safale US-05

Recipe Generated with BrewMate
Leaving 35g of challenger for dry hop
 
Up and running and mashed in
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Instead of starting a new thread I thought I would carry on here, brewed this today
AG6
American Pale Ale
Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L): 21.0
Total Grain (kg): 4.550
Total Hops (g): 50.20
Original Gravity (OG): 1.050 (°P): 12.4
Final Gravity (FG): 1.010 (°P): 2.6
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 5.21 %
Colour (SRM): 14.0 (EBC): 27.6
Bitterness (IBU): 39.1 (Tinseth - No Chill Adjusted)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 70
Boil Time (Minutes): 60
Grain Bill
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3.500 kg Pale Malt (76.92%)
0.500 kg Dextrose (10.99%)
0.300 kg Crystal 120 (6.59%)
0.200 kg Flaked Oats (4.4%)
0.050 kg Roasted Barley (1.1%)
Hop Bill
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25.2 g Bramling Cross Leaf (5.1% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.2 g/L)
10.0 g Citra Leaf (11.1% Alpha) @ 30 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
10.0 g Citra Leaf (11.1% Alpha) @ 20 Minutes (Boil) (0.5 g/L)
5.0 g Citra Leaf (11.1% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes (Boil) (0.2 g/L)
Misc Bill
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Single step Infusion at 66°C for 60 Minutes.
Fermented at 20°C with Safale US-05

Recipe Generated with BrewMate
well all went well I managed to get 21L in the fv the only I didn't hit was the og only got 1042 should have been 1050 and I am using us-05 instead of gervin, any pointers on the og would be appreciated
 
I'd have to understand all that a bit better Rod before I took the plunge and got a kleistien. Sounds like Chinese at the moment
:D. Sure sounds good though :).
 
Regarding your OG issue - assuming we can rule out measurement error (?), I'm taking a guess but I wonder if the 70% in Brew Mate is a default?

Likelihood is your efficiency using your gear and your process is a bit lower.

Try fiddling the efficiency in BM until the predicted OG matches your measured OG of 1.042.

Then you know your efficiency for next time and you can plug this value into BM - keep going like this, it'll take a few brews as you find your feet and get your process nailed down, but your efficiency should settle down to something more or less constant.

In future you may need to compensate your slightly lower efficiency by adding a bit more malt to get your desired target OG.
 

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