Rinsing Oxi

[Martybhoy]

I've recently been using Oxi to clean my gear but find it leaves a slippery, soapy coating. So I rinse and rinse, then use a little Starsan, then rinse and rinse some more.

This works but is a massive PITA.

Does anyone else have this problem?

 

[Bigcol49]

Hi!
I use Wizz Oxi from B&M or Home Bargains. Yes, it leaves a very slippy surface when washing, but I find that two rinses is enough to leave it clean without the slippery feeling.
What concentration are you using? I put one scoop of powder into 2 litres of hot water, two scoops for heavy soiling.

 

[joe 90]

yes it leaves a slippery surface,but it cleans everything i use it on stainless steel plastic and glass bottles and a couple of rinses and its ok,remember its only for washing and not sterilising

 

[Clint]

I use the sodium percarbonate. ..which is the pure oxi. It too leaves the slippery feel. ...all I find necessary is a single wipe over with starsan. If you use the sodium percarbonate is there really a need to rinse as this stuff is sold as no rinse sanitiser by some shops?

 

[svenito]

I use the Oxi no-rinse from get-er-brewed atm, and I soak my bottles in a solution and then drain them on. No need to wipe.

When bottling I just give them a quick rinse with starsan. If there's lots of residue I'll wash them out with water first, and then sanitise.

 

[Martybhoy]

Apologies, it's sodium percarbonate i use. Similar to Oxi, but purer perhaps.

I'm probably being over cautious. I'll try minimal rinsing on a test piece of equipment, a quick Starsan spray, then see how it dries.

On the plus side, oxi/sodium percarbonate is a great cleaner.

 

[svenito]

Only trouble I had was using too much of it with hard water. It left a white residue on the bottles. I had to put a ballchain in each bottle and shake them until clean.

Luckily it was a small batch, so not many bottles to do that to.

 

[JonBrew]

I use the sodium percarbonate. ..which is the pure oxi. It too leaves the slippery feel. ...all I find necessary is a single wipe over with starsan. If you use the sodium percarbonate is there really a need to rinse as this stuff is sold as no rinse sanitiser by some shops?

I used an oxi product bought from brew uk which was also sold as no rinse. I used it to clean my bottles and didn't rinse them out after as per the recommendation on the packet. the beer failed to carbonate in the bottles. I was only able to blame the oxi in the circumstances so I always rinse now and then do a starsan spray/rinse.

 

[Saisonator]

I am thinking about ditching the oxy and using soda crystals.

 

[foxbat]

I am thinking about ditching the oxy and using soda crystals.

I used Soda Crystals to clean out the boiler and grain/hop bags after the last brew. They certainly get all the caked on stuff off but what they lack compared to Oxi is the bleaching effect on stained items like hop bags.

 

[Bigcol49]

Only trouble I had was using too much of it with hard water. It left a white residue on the bottles. I had to put a ballchain in each bottle and shake them until clean.

Hi!
I found that prolonged immersion (more than 20 min) in Oxi solution left a white residue. Rinsing in vinegar removed it.

 

[svenito]

Hi!
I found that prolonged immersion (more than 20 min) in Oxi solution left a white residue. Rinsing in vinegar removed it.

Thanks. I used some vinegar and the ball chain and they came out sparkling. I assumed it was calcium from the hard water, could be wrong.

I usually leave bottles for an hour or so without any residue. I just assumed I used too much oxi that one time.

 

[Saisonator]

Hi!
I found that prolonged immersion (more than 20 min) in Oxi solution left a white residue. Rinsing in vinegar removed it.

That makes the job such a faff, oxy rinse two or three times, then vinegar rinse three times.
Just too time consuming!
I wonder if adding a very small dose of brewing acid to soften the water before oxy might help?

 

[svenito]

That makes the job such a faff, oxy rinse two or three times, then vinegar rinse three times.
Just too time consuming!
I wonder if adding a very small dose of brewing acid to soften the water before oxy might help?

I did one rinse, one vinegar, starsan. Wasn't too bad, but also a one off.

Apparently PBW works better in hard water, but I have yet to get over it's price

 

[Bigcol49]

That makes the job such a faff, oxy rinse two or three times, then vinegar rinse three times.
Just too time consuming!

Hi!
I was using Oxi to remove bottle labels when I got the residue.
Now I rinse our the bottles after pouring and store them away. When I want to use them again I simply pour in Oxi, shake, pour out and rinse twice. The bottles are now ready for sanitisation.
Unless the bottles are dirty or have a residue inside, they don't need a long Oxi treatment.

 

[Saisonator]

I did one rinse, one vinegar, starsan. Wasn't too bad, but also a one off.

Apparently PBW works better in hard water, but I have yet to get over it's price

Maybe someone knows the chemical composition of PBW and we can get the ingredients on eBay. I believe it is the same stuff as Grainfather cleaner which I have here.

 

[Saisonator]

I used Soda Crystals to clean out the boiler and grain/hop bags after the last brew. They certainly get all the caked on stuff off but what they lack compared to Oxi is the bleaching effect on stained items like hop bags.

So maybe best for steel and glass.

 

[marshbrewer]

Just to throw this in here, but I've found the warmer the water, the less residue; in fact a single rinse will do it of the original oxi solution is hot water tap hot, if you see what I mean.

 

[Bigcol49]

Apparently PBW works better in hard water, but I have yet to get over it's price

Hi!
I've got PBW and I can't say that it's any better than Oxi; it is certainly tough on the hands - wear Marigolds when using it. I use it sparingly because of the price; it's great for dried-on krausen residue.
I live in a hard water area too; I wonder if you tried a shorter soak? As I have already written above, unless the bottles are dirty I simply pour in the Oxi solution, shake and pour out - that's all they need. I've had no issues with residue apart from that one long soak.

 

[Saisonator]

Sod it, I only brew once a month, I will just use PBW off the shelf from now on.