Post Brexit food standards,,,

[marshbrewer]

My point was Dutto that subsidies haven't been encouraging production for a while, in fact in many ways quite the opposite, they have been trying to incentive things, such as Beatle banks, set aside, hedges and whatnot, which compete for space with crops. I guess we won't know what the subsidy landscape (no pun intended) will look like, but if all subsidies disappeared tomorrow, production would probably *increase* as stuff set aside for environmental schemes was ploughed up to produce crops in order to provide some kind of income stream to replace the subsidies.

I suspect that little will change in the short term.

 

[MyQul]

Did anybody see the state of those pigs who were eating each other at a "quality" pig farm in Northern Ireland. It's made me think again about buying supermarket meat. (Shut up MyQul. No!)

You know it makes sense

 

[Clint]

At least the pigs aren't vegan...eh?

 

[MyQul]

At least the pigs aren't vegan...eh?

No. by the sounds of things their eating each other

 

[Clint]

Pigs will eat anything... including people unlucky enough to get in with them!

 

[Druncan]

@An Ankoù excusee moirs, messoire "Enculez ça pour une allouette";
I fort that was about doing something rude with a freshly plucked snipe? and you won't be doing that after the end of the month,,,,

Think I'll stock up with La Beaverdale Pinot Grinch before the wine lake runs dry,,,,

 

[An Ankoù]

@An Ankoù excusee moirs, messoire "Enculez ça pour une allouette";
I fort that was about doing something rude with a freshly plucked snipe? and you won't be doing that after the end of the month,,,,

Think I'll stock up with La Beaverdale Pinot Grinch before the wine lake runs dry,,,,

It's the best Franglais I can manage for "buggger that for a lark!" Sorry, my spelling, there's only one l in alouette. It makes no sense in French, by the way. Even the Quebecois would struggle with that one.

 

[Rodcx500z]

Viktor Orban is your man here he will guide you through eu farming subsidies, He,s the main man in Hungary google him

 

[johncrobinson]

So ill thought out.
We are all just going to have to make the best of it.Make the most of the brave new world

But as i have allways said to anyone who has asked, Its the "clowns" in westminster that is the real root of our problems.
This is not party political but applies to the WHOLE LOT OF THEM.!!!!

 

[dad_of_jon]

Just make sure you get plenty of supplies in before the end of december to brew, then if it all turns to merde/scheisse you can at least drink yourself to death (on the cheap)

 

[johncrobinson]

I think you ment January
But i take your point.

Better to face the hangmans noose pi$%^^ed.

 

[Dutto]

Pigs will eat anything... including people unlucky enough to get in with them!

",,, unlucky to get in with them." reminded me of an incident when I was a policeman many, many years ago. I had the unenviable job of interviewing a farmer who had been in an accident in his car; it was only a small "ding" but in those days we had to investigate everything.

The farmer told me that he had been shuffling on the seat of his tractor due to being in a "bit of pain" from an attack by one of his pigs. I must have raised my eyebrows or something because, obviously thinking that I didn't believe him, he dropped his trousers to show me the damage!

Aaaargh! His backside looked like a relief map of the Lake District and was festooned with bits of the black twine used for sewing up boots! As he explained "When t'sow came for me I thought 'You can have my arse missus.' and climbed over the wall of the sty while she attacked me. I came into the house an laid down on the table so that my missus could sew me up with a bit of twine. She insisted on sterilising it wi' Dettol so it stung a bit."

"STUNG A BIT?" If it had been me, I would have been in hospital bed for at least a week, never mind shuffling around on a tractor seat.

About a week later I was stood in Louth Market when I heard a shout and turned round to see a huge pig running towards me down the aisle between the pens. "Stop that pig!" someone shouted and I didn't even think ...

... I jumped into the nearest empty pen and watched the pig run by!

Cowardly? Yes, and I have no scars on me due to contact with an angry pig!

 

[Cwrw666]

I think you ment January

No, we have a years grace where everything carries on as normal while they try and sort out a `deal'. Good luck with that one!

 

[dad_of_jon]

I think you ment January
But i take your point.

Better to face the hangmans noose pi$%^^ed.

Hi JCR, December will be the real crunch as thats when the transition period is due to end. January is when we no longer are a member of the EU. So I'll be stocking up for a good 6 months worth of brewing ingrediants. If you see a lorry load of belgian candi sugar on the road, that'll be for me

 

[johncrobinson]

Sorry i thought you accidentaly meant december just gone:thumba:

 

[MyQul]

No, we have a years grace where everything carries on as normal while they try and sort out a `deal'. Good luck with that one!

My view on this is that just like the withdrawal agreement, Boris will fold at the last moment. The Tories have once again boxed themselves in with 'red lines' (in this case putting into law no further extensions). He knows if we crash out it'll be mayhem, the Tories get the blame (oh, they'll try and blame someone else but some of the mud will stick) and they risk the next election due to all the predicted job losses, GDP loss etc. However if we dont 'get brexit done' all those new torie voters from the midlands and north will feel betrayed and will drift away.
So my guess is like the WA, Boris (and the rest of the cabinet, as we've seen with Javid), will continue with the bullish bluster and hardmand talk but will fold at the 11th hour and we'll stay fairly well aligned to the EU. However like the WA it'll be spun by the Torie friendly media as a glorious victory for Boris, and like the spin on the WA, will be believed

 

[johncrobinson]

I DO wonder how our homebrewing will be affected by all this (Equipment,Supplies,ect)

 

[MyQul]

I DO wonder how our homebrewing will be affected by all this (Equipment,Supplies,ect)

There are a couple of threads floating about, whereby I asked the forumites opinion on this.

Edit:I think the general opinion, with regards to hops and grains, is it wont have much of an effect. How much is harvested each year will affect these crucial ingredients much more

 

[the_quick]

I guess most malt we use is British produced - Marris otter and pale. Pilsner malt and so on, bit different story. Crisp do Europils malt, not sure if the use British barley for that or import raw grain and malt it themselves.

Equipment wise, lots of it comes from China anyway, so that should be fine I think.

My fav supplier is Get ER Brewed which is based in Norther Ireland - according to WA there will be border between us in mainland UK and NI - hoping it will be not affected.

 

[johncrobinson]

Yes MyQil I guess its a case of lies dammed lies and statistics.
I have no problem with young Brittons wanting to make there own way in the world.
But what worries me is that it is incresingly becoming an exercise in damage limitation.
Not what we were promised.!!