Porter With Coffee

[Ghillie]

Not a dark beer fan, but going to brew one next week because I haven't before...

I like coffee, so going to throw some in. 30g instant mixed with boiling water to dissolve. Question is, when to add?

-Boil
-At flameout
-Into the fermenter when decanting to FV
-Like a dry hop post fermentation

Cheers gents.

 

[Sadfield]

As it's instant coffee with little in the way of subtle aromatics, any time from flamout onwards.

https://macchomebrew.club/brewing-with-coffee/

 

[Dutto]

Never done it, but for me I would treat it like a batch prime or a hop tea and add it after fermentation.

My reasoning is that adding it before fermentation is completed it may do something to the brew, apart from adding a coffee flavour.

 

[beertrap]

When I make coffee beers, I use a couple of methods.

The first is using 1 lb of coffee malt. For myself, it gives a smooth coffee taste without any harsh or mouth cutting effects. Usually this would be in a lower abv beer, say 5-6 abv.

If making a big beer like a maple coffe imperial stout, I'll roughly crush 1-3 heaping tablespoons of a strong specialty coffee and toss it into the secondary for a week. The coffee notes will be strong and mix well with the dark malts and maple flavors.

Hope this helps.

 

[BradleyW]

What would happen if you chucked beans in? either during the mash or in the FV like you would a dry hop.

 

[Dutto]

I imagine that it would take much too long for a whole bean to release the available flavour; which is why I would do it like a Hop Tea.

 

[BradleyW]

I imagine that it would take much too long for a whole bean to release the available flavour; which is why I would do it like a Hop Tea.

At the risk of sounding like an idiot, would that simply be making a black coffee and chucking it in?

 

[MyQul]

At the risk of sounding like an idiot, would that simply be making a black coffee and chucking it in?

Yup. Thats one method (and probably the easiest)

 

[Richie_asg1]

There is some hype about cold infused coffee (mainly from the states), and I can agree that using water too hot on ground coffee tends to bring out bitterness, so you may want the cold steeping rather than a hot brew, but there again you way want the bitterness anyway.
I would probably use the dregs from my morning cafetiere instead. Kind of second runnings.

 

[chrisb8]

What would happen if you chucked beans in? either during the mash or in the FV like you would a dry hop.

I made a coffee porter last year with whole coffee beans added to the fermenter for about a week after fermentation finished. It certainly gave a strong coffee flavour, not harsh but quite overpowering of other flavours. I haven't got my notes in front of me but I think I used 100g in a 15ltr batch. I would certainly use less/give it less time if I did it again.

 

[Sadfield]

What would happen if you chucked beans in? either during the mash or in the FV like you would a dry hop.

Beans into the FV is how the pros do it. Check out the link in my earlier post, containing info from a coffee roaster who works with a number of breweries.

 

[BradleyW]

Beans into the FV is how the pros do it. Check out the link in my earlier post, containing info from a coffee roaster who works with a number of breweries.

Beans it is then! Just realised from the post and your profile you're from Macc, I'm a Buxton lad!!

 

[terrym]

Do not use instant coffee. It's awful stuff. Use 'real' coffee.
If you are in any doubt taste the difference between black coffee made with instant and real coffee.
When I did Coopers stouts I added 4 shots of espresso made in a machine from Italian dark roast.

 

[Sadfield]

Beans it is then! Just realised from the post and your profile you're from Macc, I'm a Buxton lad!!

Nice place for an afternoons drinking.

 

[johncrobinson]

I fancy making a coffee wine.
Only thing is the caffene/alcohol combination might make it a bit "Buckfast !!"

 

[Northern_Brewer]

This is worth a read : http://scottjanish.com/guide-to-coffee-beers/

Nice place for an afternoons drinking.

Even if the best thing about Buxton is the RedWillow bar... <g>

 

[johncrobinson]

Re Terrym:> A couple of years ago I was given a high pressure expresso coffee machine as a christmas present, I have never tasted coffee like it.Now I go through around 3 off 227grm bags of Italian dark roast coffee a week.

I now cannot stand to drink even the "premium brands" of instant coffee anymore.

 

[Dutto]

Coffee?

At an Offshore Medical the nurse said "I can't get a steady pulse." and the doctor said "Have you got a few minutes for an ECG?" Did I have "a few minutes"? I had as many days as it would take!

About an hour later the doctor said "Good news." I nodded with relief, "Your heart isn't missing a beat as the nurse thought, it's actually beating twice, but they are so close together that it feels like a single beat." I wondered how this could be "Good news." when he went on with "Do you drink much coffee?"

For two weeks prior to the medical I had been sitting at a desk alongside a Cona Coffee Maker and had been drinking about a mug full every hour. I confessed my sins! "That'll do it." said the doctor, "It's not dangerous, but I recommend that you cut down a bit."

I reduced my coffee intake, got a steady heartbeat and have decided that (despite the temptation) I won't be brewing beer with a coffee addition!