Pilgrim Hops

[Gingerbrews]

Was doing a quick stocktake of my hops and found 100g of Pilgrim.
Don't remember ordering it.
Anyone any ideas what it could be used in?

 

[Agentgonzo]

Was doing a quick stocktake of my hops and found 100g of Pilgrim.
Don't remember ordering it.
Anyone any ideas what it could be used in?

Beer!

 

[The Baron]

Bitters, I have used them in bitters and ales a good change from EKG/Fuggles

 

[The Baron]

This is a descriptor
Pilgrim is a dual-purpose hop that can be used in all hop additions throughout the brewing process.

Specific aroma descriptors of the Pilgrim hop include distinct fruit and spice characteristics with pleasant lemon, grapefruit, pear and berry flavors. Pilgrim is a bittering hop and it has a full-bodied, refreshing and rounded bitterness. However, Pilgrim is also not too overpowering, so it’s a great hop to use if you want a very versatile yet robust flavor.
Beer styles are
Some popular beer styles that make use of the Pilgrim hop include English Pale Ale, Nut Brown Ale & Stout.
It is a good replacement for Challenger

 

[The Baron]

Try a different take on bitter/ales and use it with Northdown

 

[SMP Brewery]

Just used it in the MM/IPA Comp as my bittering and late addition hops before adding the olicana in the whirlpool & dry hop.

No idea what it’ll come out like though as it’s still fermenting.

 

[The Baron]

I have kegged today a English Ale with Admiral as the sole hop, first taste is good await the one in a week when it will have changed and mellowed

 

[foxy]

Was doing a quick stocktake of my hops and found 100g of Pilgrim.
Don't remember ordering it.
Anyone any ideas what it could be used in?

IPA/Bitter. Pilgrim goes well with Progress hops.

 

[Clarence]

I have kegged today a English Ale with Admiral as the sole hop, first taste is good await the one in a week when it will have changed and mellowed

I'd be very interested to know the results as I was just looking up Admiral's qualities before using them to bitter a batch of CML's Tropical England.
Did you use a single charge for bittering only, or were there some late additions?

 

[The Baron]

I'd be very interested to know the results as I was just looking up Admiral's qualities before using them to bitter a batch of CML's Tropical England.
Did you use a single charge for bittering only, or were there some late additions?

I will report in a week or two.
Will have a raw pint this weekend then taste again in another week

 

[The Baron]

Hi Clarence I used them at 25 mins, 10 mins and a 30 minute whirlpool.
I did use a Belgian style yeast, CML's Flushed Nun. Personally I would not hesitate to use Admiral as a bittering charge for the Tropical England hop mix but that is my opinion

 

[Clarence]

Hi Clarence I used them at 25 mins, 10 mins and a 30 minute whirlpool.
I did use a Belgian style yeast, CML's Flushed Nun. Personally I would not hesitate to use Admiral as a bittering charge for the Tropical England hop mix but that is my opinion

Thanks. In fact CML recommend Admiral for bittering the TE, but I hadn't used them before. I'd actually got them in to bitter a mild. So I'd better get the mild on around the same time.

 

[The Baron]

TE hops are fantastic for and I do not mean this derogatory for English hops(they have been searching for English tropical for years). I have done them alone and also half and half with Harlequin both excellent in my own IPA recipes

 

[An Ankoù]

TE hops are fantastic for and I do not mean this derogatory for English hops(they have been searching for English tropical for years). I have done them alone and also half and half with Harlequin both excellent in my own IPA recipes

I do a Bitter with just harlequin as late additions, and its one of my favourites. Tried the same formula with Godiva and, while very drinkable, it wasn't as good. Never tried Tropical England, but I understand its a mixture of several English hops in the same way that Falconers Flight is a propriatory mixture of US hops. I think I've used a number of the components individually, though. So I'd better get some and give TE a whirl.
English hops are excellent followed by NZ, in my opinion, but with the advent of the likes of archer, olicana, jester, (what happened to minstrel?) Godiva, opus, and harlequin we no longer need New World hops. That's not to say we should abandon them altogether.
I've never been able to find anything like a tropical flavour with any French or German hops. Although, they're generally excellent in their (somewhat limited) place.
And no-one grows anything like phoenix or bullion!

 

[The Baron]

TE does give tropical flavours and excellent in IPA's and Pales but at this moment even though the breakthrough has happened to true tropical flavours from English hops it is not as intense as the American/New World hops for serious hop heads but I like it a lot and it gives a lovely summer style blonde too

 

[An Ankoù]

TE does give tropical flavours and excellent in IPA's and Pales but at this moment even though the breakthrough has happened to true tropical flavours from English hops it is not as intense as the American/New World hops for serious hop heads but I like it a lot and it gives a lovely summer style blonde too

And therein lies the point. Having drunk and made my own versions of these hop-head beers, I have to confess that I don't really like them. It's more like doing something for a dare! The really hoppy beers I find dissatisfying and the cloudy IPAs (so called) or NEIPAs are completely unbalanced and reminiscent of alcopops. Not a serious drink for grown ups, anyway. I fully understand that the challenges for the home brewer in making the latter style make it a something of a rite of passage, but I wonder if it's all worthwhile, at the end of the day. I'd rather have a pint of luscious session bitter. Now there's a real challenge.

 

[Agentgonzo]

I'm in agreement with you. I've tried quite a few hazy/NEIPAs, and have the same reaction. I do like a hoppy beer, but the quality and finesse seems to have been swapped for just an overpowering abundance of hops. A traditional IPA or a fruity summer English pale ale I find far more appealing than these so-called 'hop bombs'. Each to their own though.

 

[The Baron]

You can use the hops mentioned in English pales a without being overpowering IPA ales.as they are not full on tropical

 

[WHISKYWILL]

Was doing a quick stocktake of my hops and found 100g of Pilgrim.
Don't remember ordering it.
Anyone any ideas what it could be used in?

I recently made a SMASH beer with pale malt and Pilgrim hops. It was excellent and I'm planning to brew it again later this week.

 

[The Baron]

Thanks. In fact CML recommend Admiral for bittering the TE, but I hadn't used them before. I'd actually got them in to bitter a mild. So I'd better get the mild on around the same time.

Sorry for the late reply but my sole Admiral hopped beer has a quite strong orange aroma to it but it does not carry through to the taste anywhere near as strong but very nice anyway