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One-way ticket to Rwanda for some UK asylum seekers
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"World leaders" I wouldn't let Biden run a bath.
Spot on. I’m 67 and have always regarded myself as a political fence sitter. I lived in Canada for several years and was shocked when I returned, to find out that my neutral fence has been whipped out from underneath me.
It's the 'with us or against us culture', no room for compromise or accepting that other people may have differing views but that you can still get on and work together.
I agree.
There seems to be some confusion about who is going to be sent to Rwanda it's not genuine assylum seekers who will be sent it's the ones that are coming here illegally in the back of trucks and on boats.
(this is not aimed at you)
The BBC article says -
Some asylum seekers who cross the Channel to the UK will be given a one-way ticket to Rwanda under new government plans.
The pilot scheme will focus on single men arriving on boats or lorries.
Crappyfish
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Cos it's the cheapest country to send them to. We are paying them to take them. A blatant message to them and others ***k off we don't want you. All devised by the evil witch called Patel.
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Yes UK to provide cheap labour
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Couple of things here.
Firstly, the traffickers give precisely zero f**** what becomes of their cargo after they offload them.
Secondly, the people being trafficked are, IMHO, hardly likely to accessing live updates of UK immigration policy on their journey. They are being fed lies by those who exploit them.
All of this simply means the gangs running these operations just need to update their lies and selling tactics. So there will be none of this claimed disruption to their business.
Of course, we all know it's not about that. It's dead cat, dog whistle politics from a government who have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt (and the police literally agree) that they cannot be trusted not to lie, or to repeatedly break the law. In ANY facet of public service that should result in removal from office. What has gone wrong with our democracy that people whose role is literally to serve the public feel empowered to stay there and try to spin this, let alone use such a callous policy to distract?
We are way, way past parody in this country now but more importantly we are way, way past the point where ANY tory voter can claim that "oh I don't agree with that policy but I vote for them because I agree on X/Y".
If you vote for these people again after the last 2 or 3 years in particular, you need to start taking responsibility and owning your choice. You are one of them. You are as a bad as them.
Firstly, the traffickers give precisely zero f**** what becomes of their cargo after they offload them.
Secondly, the people being trafficked are, IMHO, hardly likely to accessing live updates of UK immigration policy on their journey. They are being fed lies by those who exploit them.
All of this simply means the gangs running these operations just need to update their lies and selling tactics. So there will be none of this claimed disruption to their business.
Of course, we all know it's not about that. It's dead cat, dog whistle politics from a government who have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt (and the police literally agree) that they cannot be trusted not to lie, or to repeatedly break the law. In ANY facet of public service that should result in removal from office. What has gone wrong with our democracy that people whose role is literally to serve the public feel empowered to stay there and try to spin this, let alone use such a callous policy to distract?
We are way, way past parody in this country now but more importantly we are way, way past the point where ANY tory voter can claim that "oh I don't agree with that policy but I vote for them because I agree on X/Y".
If you vote for these people again after the last 2 or 3 years in particular, you need to start taking responsibility and owning your choice. You are one of them. You are as a bad as them.
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I think we should all put our hand up and declare, " We will take them into our homes" I am willing to take a couple, who is with me? Think of the tax payers money we will save than having to transport them back out of the UK.
Whoever devised it, you can bet your @rse that some Tory spiv is going to make a pile of money out of it.
It's a big diversion tactic. If you look at the front pages of the Daily fail and express today you see it has worked, they have taken his lies off the front pages. This will not stop the despicable human traffickers from performing their evil trade. Any of their victims crossing the channel will not know of the plan if they have heard of it the traffickers will have lied to them. The vast sums involved mean "business" men this side of the channel will also be making vast sums of money, our money, are as bad as the illegal traffickers?
I do wish people would do a little research before posting this simply is not the case.
People coming here illegally on boats and in the back of lorries will be sent to Rwanda for processing genuine asylum seekers have nothing to worry about.
I refer you to my earlier quote from BBC News -
Some asylum seekers who cross the Channel to the UK will be given a one-way ticket to Rwanda under new government plans.
The pilot scheme will focus on single men arriving on boats or lorries.
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What are the safe routes for refugees and their families to get to the UK?
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1. Refugee family reunion
Refugee Family Reunion provides a safe way for family members to join someone who has already been granted refugee status in the UK. The Government’s Nationality and Borders Bill will all but destroy this vital route out of conflict for women and children. Over the last five years as many as 29,000 people have been able to come to the UK safely under refugee family reunion, over 90% of whom were women and children. New rules for asylum will severely restrict refugee family reunion.
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2. Refugee resettlement
Refugee resettlement is the transfer of refugees from an initial country of asylum. Resettlement to the UK nearly ground to a halt during the height of the Covid pandemic in 2020. A new resettlement scheme introduced in 2021 has no targets attached. Furthermore, a scheme announced in August 2021 specifically for Afghans didn’t launch until January 2022, and then only for those already evacuated to the UK. We are calling for a commitment to the resettlement of 10,000 refugees a year.
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3. Humanitarian visas
We need a humanitarian visa system to allow people to apply for visas to enter the UK for the purposes of claiming asylum. People can only claim asylum in the UK when they are physically here, which is why people are crossing the Channel to reach the UK. It doesn’t have to be this way – humanitarian visas would enable people in need of protection to travel to the UK in a safe manner.
Join our call to save lives through the implementation of a humanitarian visa scheme.
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https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-us/safe-routes-save-futures/
Sometimes safe routes for refugees are referred to as ‘safe and legal routes’ or ‘official routes’.
1. Refugee family reunion
Refugee Family Reunion provides a safe way for family members to join someone who has already been granted refugee status in the UK. The Government’s Nationality and Borders Bill will all but destroy this vital route out of conflict for women and children. Over the last five years as many as 29,000 people have been able to come to the UK safely under refugee family reunion, over 90% of whom were women and children. New rules for asylum will severely restrict refugee family reunion.
Find out more about the threat to refugee family reunion.
Sign our call for the protection of family reunion rights for refugees.
2. Refugee resettlement
Refugee resettlement is the transfer of refugees from an initial country of asylum. Resettlement to the UK nearly ground to a halt during the height of the Covid pandemic in 2020. A new resettlement scheme introduced in 2021 has no targets attached. Furthermore, a scheme announced in August 2021 specifically for Afghans didn’t launch until January 2022, and then only for those already evacuated to the UK. We are calling for a commitment to the resettlement of 10,000 refugees a year.
Find out more about our calls for a resettlement target.
Ask the Government to make a commitment to refugee resettlement.
3. Humanitarian visas
We need a humanitarian visa system to allow people to apply for visas to enter the UK for the purposes of claiming asylum. People can only claim asylum in the UK when they are physically here, which is why people are crossing the Channel to reach the UK. It doesn’t have to be this way – humanitarian visas would enable people in need of protection to travel to the UK in a safe manner.
Join our call to save lives through the implementation of a humanitarian visa scheme.
If the Government is serious about saving lives and tackling smuggling gangs, it must invest in expanding safe routes for refugees to get to the UK.
https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-us/safe-routes-save-futures/
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There has been talk of this having no effect on the migrant trade as they will be fed a load of BS by the traffickers ,sorry but they mostly all have something called a mobile phone ,once word gets back that people are getting processed in holding centres and then given a choice of going home or to Rwanda,this trade will stop .The issues need sorting in the home countries of those seeking better lives, the uk can not take possilbly tens of millions of migrants if it is left to carry on as it is .
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The ongoing process of making it borderline impossible to arrive here by legitimate means is one of the pillars that holds up this blatant racism/xenophobia.
Plenty of easy to find "research" on his difficult it is to claim asylum in the UK.
I posted about this in post #53.
It doesn't matter how difficult it is we have to stop these people thinking this country is the best place in the world to come to it isn't and we have to stop them giving their life savings to scum that happily put them in containers or on totally unsuitable boats meaning many of them die trying to get here, if the threat of being sent to Rwanda for processing if you enter illegally achieves this its got to be worth trying.
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Anyone who thinks this a serious attempt to solve the boat people issue and deter traffickers... well, if you believe that... 
Personally I doubt very much if any more than a handful of people ever get sent to Rwanda, if that. The practicalities of it; chartering planes, etc.
But it's got partygate off the headlines, and placated the Express and Mail readers. That's a win/win for Johnson as far as he's concerned.
Personally I doubt very much if any more than a handful of people ever get sent to Rwanda, if that. The practicalities of it; chartering planes, etc.
But it's got partygate off the headlines, and placated the Express and Mail readers. That's a win/win for Johnson as far as he's concerned.
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Party gate, what nine minutes in a room with some sausage rolls and a cake which stays in the Tupperware container? And while people boil there piss over it ,women and children are getting raped ,people getting tortured and executed ,towns and cities wiped off the map ,people should think their selfs lucky they have only got party gate to worry about !
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Well said Moto748 ,i liked that :)
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