No Boil Lazy Extract brew

[uDicko]

Anyone made a no boil extract only beer?

I'm looking for ways to short a brewday and only by exception. I made a no boil (all grain) hazy IPA the other day (0IBU calculated) and it was consumed this weekend with rave reviews. It was a great beer and made in haste. Brewed on 2nd Aug drank on 7th August.

Got me thinking, the lengthy part is mash if I have now removed the boil, how can I remove the mash?

Anyway I will be giving it a go soon enough when the DME gets delivered and will make another.

Do you have to boil or hold DME at mash temperature? Is it essential? I can always make a hop tea whirlpool addition and plan to dry hop.

Curious

 

[GerritT]

Anyone made a no boil extract only beer?

I'm looking for ways to short a brewday and only by exception. I made a no boil (all grain) hazy IPA the other day (0IBU calculated) and it was consumed this weekend with rave reviews. It was a great beer and made in haste. Brewed on 2nd Aug drank on 7th August.

Got me thinking, the lengthy part is mash if I have now removed the boil, how can I remove the mash?

Anyway I will be giving it a go soon enough when the DME gets delivered and will make another.

Do you have to boil or hold DME at mash temperature? Is it essential? I can always make a hop tea whirlpool addition and plan to dry hop.

Curious

There is such a thing as overnight mashing, meaning you would not lose time REALLY, but it would give room for easier brewdays.

And yes, just a short boil for dme, just to get it sterilised.

 

[uDicko]

Holding at 65c for 15 mins would also do the trick I presume?

 

[Joust]

I sometimes do a quick extract only brew.

I'm busy with a baby and spare time is almost nonexistent. I can do a dme brew in 20 mins. And most of that time is cleaning the FV and equipment.

3 or 4 kg of dme
A few mL Isomered hop extract for IBUs
Warm tap water
Kveik yeast

It's done in 4 days. And dry hopped, crashed, carbed, and ready to drink in another 4.

It's very very good.

 

[AMyd666]

Interesting. What beer styles have you tried?

 

[uDicko]

Interesting. What beer styles have you tried?

I've not done any yet but I'm going to try a hazy IPA with 75% wheat 25% light extract.

Not decided on the hops at all yet. Got loads to choose from but will probably do a hop tea using my aeropress and some heavy dry hopping.

Can you, or is it worth treating the water similar to when doing an AG mash do you think?

 

[AMyd666]

I've never treated my water and when hopping I prefer tea rather than dry

 

[uDicko]

Used the aeropress as a pseudo boil addition hop and the hop 'cake' was pretty cool.

Decided on the following hop additions :

22 g (24 IBU) — Chinook 10% — Aroma — 40 min hopstand (aeropress for 40mins from a fresh pour boiled kettle)

50 g — Cascade 6.3% — Dry Hop — day 0 added after I did the aeration

49 g — Chinook 10% — Dry Hop — day 3

30 g — Cascade 6.3% — Dry Hop — day 3

Currently on day 4 and its still chugging away. I may have made a mistake but I added the following on day 1

1.7 g — Amylase Enzyme — Prim ary

As I wasn't happy with the predicted FG being 1.027! Presumably due to using extract only .

Could be a proper strange beer when it's done.

 

[uDicko]

Can you, or is it worth treating the water similar to when doing an AG mash do you think?

I decided to add calcium chloride to this in the end.

 

[terrym]

@uDicko
In my view there is no need to heat or even boil DME in solution to sterilise. Use it cold, provided it comes from a sealed packet. That's what I do, not least because it dissolves better in cold water.
And if you are brewing an all extract beer (i.e. no grain) from your posts you seem to be indicating that you are mashing the DME. If that is the case there is no need since homebrew DME contains no diastase* and the DME manufacturing process has converted starches in the malt feed to produce wort which contains fermentable sugars which is then used as feedstock for dry or liquid ME product
*Edit... its diastase not amylase (doh!)

 

[uDicko]

So, I wasn't sure if I should mash the DME but I ended up not mashing it.

I added water to fermenter
Added sodium metabisulfite
Added calcium chloride
Added DME
Added yeast
Added hops
Added alpha amylase (could have buggered it up)
Then added hop additions and hop tea/coffee according to previous post.


Sorry for any confusion. Will be interesting to see how good it turns out in comparison to effort of AG brews. I'm thinking the hop additions would end up drowning out any benefits of mini mash flavour it could impart.

 

[MrRook]

Anyone made a no boil extract only beer?
Do you have to boil or hold DME at mash temperature? Is it essential? I can always make a hop tea whirlpool addition and plan to dry hop.
Curious

There's no need to boil extract only beer. And you can get IBUs without boiling.
I heat the water to hear boiling and mix in some ( or all) of the extract then steep a while with hops.

 

[Graz]

Interesting thoughts here, as a kit only brewer I've thought about trying some extract stuff but the boil has put me off a bit partly as I'd need to invest in some sort of boiler to do so.

Totally agree with what has been said above, there is no need to boil DME/LME to sterilise it as if it's out of a fresh pack it's can't have any more bugs in it than the tap water I'd brew with if making a kit up. As far as I'm concerned the only need to boil is to isomerise the hops to add bittering, later hop additions could just be as a hop tea.

As also mentioned the other option is to use an isomerised hop extract for bittering and I've in fact brewed a kit that was just this consisting of a couple of cans of LME, hop extract and some pellets for dry hopping.

@MrRook Do you have a better scan of the article above, can't read it in its current form? Thanks.

 

[MrRook]

All I have is an Amazon fire tablet with a so- so camera. Hopefully this helps.