It's all lies...
Oh no! I don't have a pair of flame-proof pyjamas . Guess I'll just have to run & hide somewhere.......Oh **** you have mentioned science in a post to Gunge best get your flame proof pyjamas on now.
But, then, I've got a problem. Because I actually am a scientist. OK, I'm a biologist, so only just!
Well, I've never heard that "the concensus is always wrong". Would you care to explain? Mind you, I reckon that I very frequently disagree with the the "concensus" - depending upon what is actually meant by that. As far as I'm concerned "concensus" is defined as majority opinion. Therefore, that includes all opinions, however well informed or otherwise, and it's therefore obvious that these need not be driven by evidence or logic.I'm actually a scientist, too. One of those who disagree with the 'concensus'. And remember, the concensus is always wrong.
I saw something the other day showing how ever since the 80s there are regular publications always saying we have 10 years left to fix climate change before its to late and its still 10 years now.
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wise people so full of doubts.”This is their chosen tactic - climate change is always in 'the future'. They're wrong on that count too... it is here and now and in a constant state of flux, as it always has been. Their starting point for claiming rapid change is the industrial revolution which handily coincides with the end of the Little Ice Age. From that point there was only one way temperatures could go; up. But the sole driver of global climate - the sun - will have the last say as solar activity, the cause of the Maunder Minimum and the ensuing drop in temperatures then, now enters a long slumber once again. When the effects of that begin to filter through and the consequences are there for all to see, expect the climate change clamour to ratchet up a notch in their race against time to dupe everyone. They're scared of having to get a real job instead of fighting over grants to perpetuate this crapola which has so far provided a cushy number and 'working' holidays to perform 'research' in parts of the world most of us can only dream of seeing. As for governments, they have their own reasons for promoting this garbage but rest assured those reasons ain't anything to do with 'climate' - that's just a convenient vehicle by which to deliver them.
Katla volcano emits more CO2 in one day than humankind has done in a hundred years.
Well, I know i shouldn't take the bait..... But.......Aww - howay man! Are you really serious?? Copernicus was born in 1473 - and did indeed go against the consensus at the time of opinion of the earth being the centre of the universe. But again I'd say "what consensus"?? All he was up against was a hierarchy of religious bigots/zealots who hadn't any real clue about what was going on. Newton? In what way did Newton go against any consensus? This was a period of immense discovery - Newton's studies of light, and his insight into gravity were truly breaking new ground. But, Newton also believed that alchemy was likely to be true, and possibly wished to re-discover the "occult wisdom of the ancients". Galileo - again, as far as I can tell, up against a consensus of bigots who had no real interest in the truth. Einstein: well that's more complicated. He certainly did totally reform physics, but equally he did not like some of the ramifications of his theories, hating the perceived chaos of quantum physics - hence the quote "God does not play dice with the universe". Hardly the words of someone rejecting a consensus view.Einstein, Galileo, Newton, Copernicus... just a few off the top of my head who went against the consensus. The latter himself duly noted that consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.
Ah, well, I cannot disagree with you there in any regard! Personally, I don't have much emotional investment in the future: I have mature children but no grandchildren (and none likely!) that I might worry about. Unfortunately, in the minds of our wise leaders, "investment" seems solely wedded to money and its growth.Furthermore, what if the climate does continue changing, regardless of the cause? Does anyone truly care? Even if you did care, do you truly, honestly believe you can do something to halt it in its tracks
Beer post?They appear to be saying a lot of people are being put off buying as they cannot decide which version to buy diesel is now considered the spawn of the devil so its a toss up between Petrol, Hybrid or electric.
Have any members bought a new car?
Did you change from Diesel to petrol, petrol to diesel or petrol/diesel to electric or hybrid?
I am changing my car (diesel) in a couple of years * i don't do a huge mileage so at the moment am thinking of going for a petrol (probably 1.0L - 3 cylinder Fiesta of the Vauxhall Corsa equivalent as they both get very good reviews) but would now consider electric as some of my concerns about running one were answered earlier on 5 live.
* It wont be new i am way too tight to stomach the depreciation in the first couple of years.
A representative from the National grid has been on 5 live and answered the usual questions asked when people discuss electric cars.
1] If we all switch will there be enough electric.
He said - we have a lot more gadgets now but they take far less electric to run them so if everyone was to switch tomorrow it would take us back to the consumption figures of the Mid nineties so no problem.
2] How are people living on terraced streets etc going to charge their cars.
He said - We do not fill our petrol/diesel cars every time we use them and unless you are doing a high daily mileage there is no need to top up an electric car every day, as electric vehicles become more popular more charging stations will become available you will be able to charge your car in the works car park or when you are doing your weekly/monthly shop etc not having a charging point outside your house will not be an issue.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45743771
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