Milton Sterilizing Tablets

[buzzharvey22]

Anyone used these? Says you dont have to rinse after using? Sounds good to me. £1 for a packet of 28, and i think you can probably use 2 tablets to do 40 500ml bottles so works out pretty cheap.

Thoughts?

 

[Mbarn]

I use them. I use fairy on everything first, and then Milton as a final clean. Good enough for babies, good enough for beer.

 

[graysalchemy]

You must rince as they are chlorine based and in brewing terms that is not no rince, unless you like tcp in your beer.

 

[buzzharvey22]

balls.

saw a video on youtube and somebody said you didnt have to rine so did a batch of coopers euro lager without rinsing.

oh well, we'll see

 

[nobyipa]

up till last week I was using Milton
but what a job to do!
To bottle I would make up 40 litres submerge me 50 bottles in it leave for half hour
tip out the steriliser fill all bottles with fresh water empty and repeat up to 3 sometimes 4 times to rid it of that swimming baths chlorine taste.
so about 115 litres of water and a lot of time
Using Star San now
what an upgrade this is 'well it is for me'
Making a sulfiter bottle steriliser at mo will post when tested and completed

 

[buzzharvey22]

balls.

there's me dads christmas beer down the shitter.

 

[Mbarn]

balls.

there's me dads christmas beer down the shitter.

Sure it will be fine. I always rinse, but I can't imagine it will completely ruin it by not rinsing.

 

[buzzharvey22]

Guys, what is the "CHEMIPRO OXI 1 KG NO RINSE CLEANER STERILISER" like? seen its a bit cheaper than starsan.

Should i just bite the bullet and buy the star san lol

 

[mojonojo]

Guys, what is the "CHEMIPRO OXI 1 KG NO RINSE CLEANER STERILISER" like? seen its a bit cheaper than starsan.

Should i just bite the bullet and buy the star san lol

Oxipro is for cleaning,
Starsan is for sanitising,
you need to do both.

 

[graysalchemy]

balls.

there's me dads christmas beer down the shitter.

Sure it will be fine. I always rinse, but I can't imagine it will completely ruin it by not rinsing.

The problem is that the chlorine reacts with the phenols in the hops forming tcp.

Guys, what is the "CHEMIPRO OXI 1 KG NO RINSE CLEANER STERILISER" like? seen its a bit cheaper than starsan.

Should i just bite the bullet and buy the star san lol

A bottle of starsan will last a hell of a lot longer than s kilo tub of chempro.

As above

 

[buzzharvey22]

thanks guys.

might aswell go the whole hogg and buy the biggest bottle possible. my local homebrew store didnt have any though, guess il have to order it online

 

[pittsy]

I've got the 8 oz bottle of star san and have had it for over a year now , only used approx 1/8 th of it and i brew approx once a month . I use it for everything , best value there is . I think it cost around a tenner so a year's worth cost me less than £2 .

 

[Goat Boy]

Don't give up on your grog yet mate. I use Milton all the time and don't rinse. Just shake drips out. Never had this TCP effect happen so you could well be ok.

Looked into this after another thread about Milton came up and found some info.

"An aqueous sterilising solution containing:
% w/w
<5%

Milton Sterilising Fluid 1%w/v gives 10,000 ppm available chlorine
Milton Sterilising Fluid 2%w/v gives 20,000 p
pm available chlorine"

And this.




Not sure if any of that means it's in the clear but as above, never fallen foul of it up to now.

 

[graysalchemy]

It has Chlorine in it. Beer and chlorine don't mix.

Yes Goatboy it will depend on how much Chlorine is in there, but we go to great lengths to get rid of any chlorine and chloramines before mashing grains. It also depends on how you detect TCP, you may simply not detect it as well as someone else.

 

[Duncs]

... never fallen foul of it up to now.

I have :sick: . 40 pints of TCP tasting beer down the drain and all because I didn't give the bottles a quick rinse

In my opinion, a few extra minutes rinsing the bottles is well worth while.

 

[scotttc]

I use the Tesco tablets in my pet bottles during storage. After use i clean the bottles then fill with water and pop one of these in then store. Come bottling day simply empty and rinse. Never had any problems.

 

[Fil]

My Mam had a trick for storing the big thermos flasks used for days out, after drying she would drop a sugar cube in the flask and seal it up.. the sugar cube being highly Hygroscopic will suck all the water out of the air creating an arid dry environment so no air born bugs can start anaerobic growth.

never dawned on me before but if you use screw top or flip top bottles stored this way you could have your bottles all ready primed for use ..

 

[Duncs]

never dawned on me before but if you use screw top or flip top bottles stored this way you could have your bottles all ready primed for use ..

That is genius :hat:

 

[loady]

I got a brew that tastes very much like TCP, someone suggested it had a 'wild yeast infection, although i didnt notice any visual signs of infection...i used videne to sterilise but didnt rinse it..but im sure thats a no rinse solution anyway ?

 

[graysalchemy]

Videne is no rinse. Wild yeast can cause TCP flavours but the most common cause is chlorine either in your brewing water or not rinsing chlorine based sterilisers. :thumb: