Lose Weight - DRINK MORE BEER

[Kenboy]

I assume this calorific intake is just when you are in diet mode? Serious question - I was a fat kid and I've been struggling with my weight all my life (I'm a pensioner now - still struggling!). I do find that drinking beer destroys any possibility of losing weight. Maybe the diff is your exercising.

Yes at the moment I'm still in my fat burn. There will be a date when I reach my desired 10-12% bodyfat goal, then it's about being calorie neutral. So ensuring I have a balance of calories in calircal out.

The key thing is consume less calories than You expend, you will lose weight!

 

[Kenboy]

if so, its a helluva diff - beer, cakes and burgers and 1600-1800- cals per day. and ripped. the book will make an international fortune? ("The all burger, cake and ale diet"!)

Don't hate, motivate

I don't eat a diet of cake burgers and beers. That would be ridiculous. I have a healthy balanced diet, I live a very active lifestyle, which means that if I want to eat burgers cakes & drink beer, my diet allows it. It's also known as " if it fits your macros"

You can balance your calories our across the week. So if today I eat 3000 calories, that's ok, I can have less Tomorrow and on Wednesday etc.

My results speak for themself. As I said, I do this diet (lifestyle) and it works for me as I get to do all the things I love, including drinking beer.

Plenty of info on this online or on YouTube

 

[Kenboy]

I too have been doing some intermittent fasting recently, and then just generally keeping an eye on my eating otherwise. My general routine is something like this:

Monday - Fast
Tuesday - Healthy eating, go for a run
Wednesday - Fast
Thursday - Healthy eating, go for a run
Friday - Healthy eating in the day. Go easy in the evening but have a few drinks
Saturday / Sunday - No rules. No guilt.

On all the weekdays, I try to keep within a slight calorie deficit, around 250 calories under, but invariably I'll be a little under that too. On Fridays, I try to make sure I've balanced the calorie intake with the amount I have burnt. I use an app on my phone to track things. In the 5-6 weeks I've been doing this, I've lost about 4kg / 9lb which has come off my slightly podgy gut (I'm not fat but carry just a little too much around the middle).

But there are two things in play here - the fasting and the calorie deficit. You don't have to do the calorie deficit part so don't need to do the exercise, and should still lose some weight.

I've linked the video that started it all off for me that explains a bit more (I neither look like that bloke, nor would I want to). The point to note is that it allegedly burns fat without burning muscle (I wouldn't know about the muscle part as I don't have any!!) and you can eat a normal diet in the time that you're not fasting, i.e. you just eat a day's worth of food in the 8 hours after you have finished fasting. Alcohol is not banned but there's a little rule about not drinking on an empty stomach and just allowing your food to digest a bit before drinking - again, not tricky. You can also do some smarter things around avoiding consuming carbs and fats at the same time but I've found that's a little harder in practice and interferes with my life too much, so I don't bother.

The fasting thing isn't actually that difficult to achieve. You just go 16 hours without eating - sounds like a long time but you'll be asleep for half of that. In practice, you have your dinner and then stop eating until lunch the next day - no calories allowed in during that time, so only black coffee, black tea (no milk, no sugar) and water. The first few times you do it, you feel a little hungry and can feel a bit light-headed by lunchtime but it soon passes. It's amazing how much the water can sustain you through the day.

Great response. Thanks

Just a couple things I disagree with. 1) I like milk in my tea and coffee, so I have milk. You're only talking about 10-20 calories per cup anyway. 2) Carbs are ok, as are fats and other "bad foods" as long as you maintain the calories.

I'm glad you're doing something you enjoy, to me that's the best diet lifestyle to have as otherwise you hate it and quit.

 

[-Bezza-]

Great response. Thanks

Just a couple things I disagree with. 1) I like milk in my tea and coffee, so I have milk. You're only talking about 10-20 calories per cup anyway. 2) Carbs are ok, as are fats and other "bad foods" as long as you maintain the calories.

I'm glad you're doing something you enjoy, to me that's the best diet lifestyle to have as otherwise you hate it and quit.

It's strange how much I am enjoying it at the moment. I'm about 15 hours into a fast right now and starting to feel quite hungry, but it feels like there's a purpose to this hunger so it's completely manageable. Plus I know that I'm going to eat in 85 mins, so a clear deadline makes it easier too.

I have milk in my tea and coffee when not fasting. It's only during the fast times that I have black tea and coffee.

And I agree that carbs are ok and fats are ok. However, have a watch of the video I linked for comments on consuming fats and carbs at the same time - something to do with how your body absorbs more of the fat because of the insulin spike caused by the carbs. As I say, too much faff so I don't bother worrying about it.

This is turning into a strange thread for a homebrew forum!!

 

[bobukbrewer]

strange ? I have seen far worse / better - threads with hundreds of responses are usually worth reading....

 

[Gunge]

I've recently been diagnosed with diabetes and I'm on these tablets called Metformin. 4 a day and I'm away.... scoff and drink what I want. Dunno how the diabetes came about though, I'm 11st wet through, 5'10" and as fit as a fiddle except after sugar and carbs which used to put me flat on my back.

 

[bobukbrewer]

I was told I was pre diabetic so I reduced carbs and sugar and increased exercise - bak to normal now - BUT it sounds like you are much further down the road than I was - but talk to your GP

 

[Kenboy]

It's strange how much I am enjoying it at the moment. I'm about 15 hours into a fast right now and starting to feel quite hungry, but it feels like there's a purpose to this hunger so it's completely manageable. Plus I know that I'm going to eat in 85 mins, so a clear deadline makes it easier too.

I have milk in my tea and coffee when not fasting. It's only during the fast times that I have black tea and coffee.

And I agree that carbs are ok and fats are ok. However, have a watch of the video I linked for comments on consuming fats and carbs at the same time - something to do with how your body absorbs more of the fat because of the insulin spike caused by the carbs. As I say, too much faff so I don't bother worrying about it.

This is turning into a strange thread for a homebrew forum!!

I love that we can expand into other areas in this forum.

Google Dr Tim Noakes. He literally wrote the book on sports nutrition, but later debunked his own research. He will change your mind about sports nutrition, carbs and dieting.

 

[Gunge]

All 'experts' talk shyte. Look how the wheel has turned full-circle about things that are / were good or bad for you. Just eat and drink as you see fit, we aren't long on this earth and if one of the experts is right the best one can expect is an extra year or two during the adult nappy stage. No thanks.

 

[keat64]

It's not the beer which makes us fat, but the kebab, pizza or fried chicken afterwards.