Lager without lagering?

[Smokey.]

If I brewed an AG lager using Nottingham or S-04 yeast and conditioned like normal rather than lagering what would the outcome be?

Something simple from GW's book for 23l:
5600g Lager malt
45g Saaz hops

 

[johnc86]

I'm going to try something like this too but I don't have the option to 'lager' either. Iv read about people doing it outside in the Uk during the winter with good results. I am planning to try this for myself.

 

[Smokey.]

I've read people saying to use a yeast like Nottingham if you can't lager but was wondering what the outcome on flavour would be? And how long to condition?

 

[Aleman]

I've read people saying to use a yeast like Nottingham if you can't lager but was wondering what the outcome on flavour would be? And how long to condition?

You would have a pale ale . . . if you use a neutral ale yeast fermented cool, it would be clean with no discernible 'ale' characteristics . . . if you use something like SO4 it would be pale ale, and not a particularly nice one. . . . If you use a Lager yeast at that range it would be nasty . . . . . Steam Beers are just that . . . a lager fermented with a particularly neutral ale yeast, the Chico strain IIRC . . . . or as we say over here US05 . . . . BUT that one is particularly difficult to clear . . . apparently I find that three weeks at 4C clears it beautifully :lol:

 

[cwrw]

There is also an alternative of using the Mauri strain that is provided under "Young's lager yeast" name and I am informed by them that this strain will ferment a nice taste at 14c :thumb:

 

[unclepumble]

if you want a lager without lagering use plenty of adjuncts, maize, glucose sugar or rice flakes/flour, or a mixture of all three.
as the conditioning time will be less.

its better to do a lager in a garage end of october when the temps drop and use a proper lager yeast at about 13 deg. by the time its had 2 weeks then transfered to a keg it usually starts getting cold enough to leave it to the elements to lager it for you.

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