Intelligence on the internet

[Hawks]

It's odd, I dunno why I remember it being called Bodmas, but it stuck, and since then, ermmm until the Internet appeared with the what does this equal, I doubt I have ever had to use it

Pretty much the same here, it just stuck and only ever gets used for things like this.

My android calculator gets 12 as it lets you input the full equation before calculating, whereas my PC desktop calculator does each as you input it so is doing a different equation (3+3)*3-3+3 = 18

Here's a really simple page on it, as apparently Maths is Fun.... :whistle:
http://www.mathsisfun.com/operation-order-bodmas.html

EDIT.. replaced the odd 9..

 

[oz11]

Change the desktop calculator to scientific (in View) and you should get the correct answer

 

[Hawks]

Change the desktop calculator to scientific (in View) and you should get the correct answer

Ahh.. I didn't know that existed... :thumb:

 

[Titus A Duxass]

Maths is fun.
Some of us are so lucky that we have to do sums for work.

 

[MadrikXIV]

Got somneone here to test the iPhone, and it came out correct at 12.

I do vaguely recall, that on a proper calculator, to avoid Bodmas taking effect, you had to hit equals for the bits in brackets.

Does trigonometry and algebra exist outside of school?

 

[alanywiseman.]

What a cat fight, Love it!!!

I have never heard of BODMAS. I just got taught the right order to do it and that was the order it was done. I dont think there is an argument for the use of brackets in the simple equation as they are reserved for when a operation needs to proceed every other operation in the equation.

There is a certain irony I think, given the title of the thread, in that fact that people refuse to accept that they are wrong are wrong even when given the evidence so clearly.

I would like to wade in in defence of those that are sh*t with spelling, gammar and punctuation. I am one of those people. I get bits of it like to, too and two. However I do not get a lot of it. I have really difficulty with there and their a lot of the time and try to avoid the use of any apostrophes. I am more than happy for people to correct me as hopefully in time I will understnad them but for me the maths, Monty Hall Problem, Crap waiter problem and men in ground with hat problem are straight forward in comparision to that of the english language.

 

[MadrikXIV]

I actually felt it was about time we 'pruned' the english language.

Do away with...
where, were, wear
to, too, two
their, there
Golf, gulf
for example

or expand it so that words that mean something different, aren't spelt the same..
row, row
wind, wind
minute and minute

Just as long as we don't go making words masculine ore feminine, thats just madness

 

[cutnrun]

I understand why you would not want so many different words that sound the same, and i have trouble with spelling,

but... they all mean different things, when writing them down you need the different words to mean different things.

 

[oldbloke]

I actually felt it was about time we 'pruned' the english language.

http://www.davebudd.org.uk/text_files/orthographics.html

 

[Russ146]

Well, all i can say is

GOD HELP US

When this type of gibberish is taught as education.

Who said Multiplication first?

Of course the s3 would say twelve, so does my galaxy ace. its programmed by idiots! Hopefully soon when all this technocrap blows up and we go back to proper mathematics using standard calculators everybody will accept that the true and real answer to the stated sum is: 3+3=6 x3=18 -3=15 +3 =18


The victorians conquered the world without even a pocket calculator, seems to be now that all the idiots can build is bigger computers to justify their idiotic answers to basic maths

 

[MadrikXIV]

I actually felt it was about time we 'pruned' the english language.

http://www.davebudd.org.uk/text_files/orthographics.html

I almost understand the last senatance, and it seems fairly similar to what the 'yoof' put on the net
(Or it was the 3 IPA's at lunch, culminating in something from Skinners of Cornwall, called something odd like Seenal, good old Wetherspoons beer festivals)

Makes more sense than peoples refusal of facts

 

[graysalchemy]

Well, all i can say is

GOD HELP US

When this type of gibberish is taught as education.

Who said Multiplication first?

Of course the s3 would say twelve, so does my galaxy ace. its programmed by idiots! Hopefully soon when all this technocrap blows up and we go back to proper mathematics using standard calculators everybody will accept that the true and real answer to the stated sum is: 3+3=6 x3=18 -3=15 +3 =18


The victorians conquered the world without even a pocket calculator, seems to be now that all the idiots can build is bigger computers to justify their idiotic answers to basic maths

Well said Ross. I don't ever recall being taught that at school or have ever found the need to do it that way. If it is meant to have brackets put brackets in then there is no confusion. We were always taught mathematic equations with brackets in.

 

[MadrikXIV]

Well, all i can say is

GOD HELP US

When this type of gibberish is taught as education.

Who said Multiplication first?

Of course the s3 would say twelve, so does my galaxy ace. its programmed by idiots! Hopefully soon when all this technocrap blows up and we go back to proper mathematics using standard calculators everybody will accept that the true and real answer to the stated sum is: 3+3=6 x3=18 -3=15 +3 =18


The victorians conquered the world without even a pocket calculator, seems to be now that all the idiots can build is bigger computers to justify their idiotic answers to basic maths

Well said Ross. I don't ever recall being taught that at school or have ever found the need to do it that way. If it is meant to have brackets put brackets in then there is no confusion. We were always taught mathematic equations with brackets in.

I'm just curious, how is it well said, plenty of evidence it is totally the wrong answer.

Bodmas existed long before 'Technocrap' and guess the victorians managed without the calculator as they knew how to do sums, if anything it appears 'Technocrap' has made it impossible for people to do the calculation, let alone accept the truth


Put some brackets in and you can have 18

(3+3)x3-3+3=18

Guessing that day, people where too busy putting 55378008 into their calculator

 

[ScottM]

Well said Ross. I don't ever recall being taught that at school or have ever found the need to do it that way. If it is meant to have brackets put brackets in then there is no confusion. We were always taught mathematic equations with brackets in.

Brackets are only shown in school to help people who don't understand the basic order principles (from the 1700s I believe). Like training wheels :)

3 different people can get 3 different answers with the same problem, this is simply not possible or logical. There can be only 1 correct answer and if the laws of basic mathematics are followed then it will always be found.

Scientific calculators are actually there to make mathematics easier, rather than more complex. It's harder to do proper "sums" with a basic calculator than it is with a scientific calculator as the scifi calculator will take care of the principles you don't know/remember... a simple individual calculation calculator won't, hence why people have trouble with it.

I wish people wouldn't spit the dummy over it though, you either know it or you don't. As said previously, there is no logical way to solve the problem without prior knowledge of the basic principles in play. It's not something you can work at to solve, once you follow the "rules" the answer is just as easy to get to as when you don't follow the rules and get the wrong answer.

 

[graysalchemy]

Brackets are only shown in school to help people who don't understand the basic order principles (from the 1700s I believe). Like training wheels :)

We must have all been thick at my grammar school then.

 

[graysalchemy]

This whole thread has been devisive from the start designed to lure people into showing themselves up.

I have never heard of BODMAS or any order in which you are meant to work out an equation. But as i said we must all have been thick at my school.

Guessing that day, people where too busy putting 55378008 into their calculator

That comment is getting a bit personal and offensive.

 

[MadrikXIV]

This whole thread has been devisive from the start designed to lure people into showing themselves up.

I have never heard of BODMAS or any order in which you are meant to work out an equation. But as i said we must all have been thick at my school.

Guessing that day, people where too busy putting 55378008 into their calculator

That comment is getting a bit personal and offensive.

Really? Its one of the first things learnt on a calculator at my school (Just before Bodmas)
Then I apologise, but I remember the day that putting those digits into a calculator and turning it upside down was the most amusing thing on the planet, easily amused age 10 or 11

 

[graysalchemy]

Really? Its one of the first things learnt on a calculator at my school (Just before Bodmas)
Then I apologise, but I remember the day that putting those digits into a calculator and turning it upside down was the most amusing thing on the planet, easily amused age 10 or 11

The way it reads to me you were implying that those of us who didn't know what Bodmas was were two busy putting 55378008 into their calculator, which i find offensive.

Don't belittle you fellow forum members.

 

[MadrikXIV]

Not at all, its a poke at how much more interesting that number is when compared to Bodmas

Gonna leave this thread now

 

[Russ146]

The way it reads to me you were implying that those of us who didn't know what Bodmas was were two busy putting 55378008 into their calculator, which i find offensive.

Don't belittle you fellow forum members.

Quite right but let him have his 5537mind bit of fun.

Bodmas Yawn Yawn