Toyota now have a car you can refill with hydrogen anywhere you like, Electric is not the way forward and the governments know this it is a stop gap
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Hydrogen cars.
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The problem with hydrogen is it's hard to store and low energy density.
The energy density (by volume) of liquid/compressed hydrogen is about a quarter of that of petrol.
The efficiency of a fuel cell car is about twice that of an ICE, which leaves you with about half the range for the same volume of fuel. But petrol can just be sloshed into a simple tank in your car and hydrogen canisters require stronger/thicker walls and so you can't store the same volume of hydrogen fuel as your can petrol, further decreasing the range.
The energy density (by volume) of liquid/compressed hydrogen is about a quarter of that of petrol.
The efficiency of a fuel cell car is about twice that of an ICE, which leaves you with about half the range for the same volume of fuel. But petrol can just be sloshed into a simple tank in your car and hydrogen canisters require stronger/thicker walls and so you can't store the same volume of hydrogen fuel as your can petrol, further decreasing the range.
Anywhere you like, except it's not sold anywhere.
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It not that its hard to store, it's the flipping high pressures, depending on which "Standard" you use.
An the period table gives us a clue. H¹ one molecule. So it has the propensity to leak.
Google nearest "hydrogen Station near me " and see what happens
An the period table gives us a clue. H¹ one molecule. So it has the propensity to leak.
Google nearest "hydrogen Station near me " and see what happens
Sorry Rod, you're wrong on all counts.
"Anywhere you like, as long its London or Sheffield" is probably more correct. (Map of current H-stations attached).
We've been over the environmental arguments for EV's too many times in this thread. I'll just say that no one has provided a satisfactory counter argument to ICE being better than EV from that, or any other perspective.
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To stabilise the hydrogen they should mix it mostly with petrol.
Rod meant by using the cartridges he linked to in post #3 -
Toyota's portable hydrogen cartridges look like giant AA batteries – and could spell the end of lengthy EV charging
https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-t...nd-could-spell-the-end-of-lengthy-ev-charging
So it seems that these hydrogen cartridges are envisioned as being able to charge EVs? That's not going to replace the EV then, just provide a different charging method.
Ahh, I missed that part.
To quote the article "Although just a concept now..." or to put it another way "Toyota
I apologise to Rod my oversight of the second post, but I am leaving my objection on the table.
As in as quick as filling an ice
As in as quick as filling an ice
Fast charging is just about there.
But not as easy. Try as I might, I just could never get my ICE cars to fill up overnight.As in as quick as filling an ice
