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In the immortal words of GA.....

Succumb to the Force young Padwan, give yourself over........

Brew days are great fun, more to fiddle with than kits, more to go wrong, and the best bit you can keep the kids and wives at bay with the smells !.
I'm very glad I never decided to boil in the kitchen !
 
If any one is still unsure about going All Grain...consider this.

2 Woodforde Wherry kits approx £36 = 80 bottles of decent beer.

25Kg of Malt = £23 + 6 packets of hops ( say £20) = over 320 bottles of brilliant beers or more
 
Here's another "consider this"...

Hooky Bitter in Tescos ATM is on 4 for £6, quid and a half a bottle...

Total cost (according to beersmith and Rob's prices) of the clone recipe I'm doing: £9.38. I anticipate c. 42 bottles. From tesco that would be £63.00 :shock:

Now working that to its logical conclusion, my brewery when complete will probably cost in the order of £600. Saving £50 per brew, a dozen brews and it's paid for!

The 70l pot and the material for the grain bags will be paid off in brew #2!

It's :party: time!
 
Have to agree with everyone else here, when I first joined this forum I had just started my first kit which was very tasty...I had read loads of posts about AG and thought "oh that sounds like too much trouble, complicated and hard work!"

A number of kits later, I was really enjoying the fruits of this and read more and then took the plunge into AG...my first pint of my first AG brew I was won over completely, kits are nice but AG brews are AWESOME! Won't be going back now, the dark side has me...
 
mattrickl06 said:
It begs the question should i even bother with extract brewing or hop straight on into AG??

It might be halloween but there's no need for horror puns...

...if you are going to go AG, just go AG I say! I've done kits, modified kits, stupid modified kits (10.5% Russian Imperial Stout...) and I'm going straight to hell... ooops... AG... at the weekend.
 
piddledribble said:
If any one is still unsure about going All Grain...consider this.

2 Woodforde Wherry kits approx £36 = 80 bottles of decent beer.

25Kg of Malt = £23 + 6 packets of hops ( say £20) = over 320 bottles of brilliant beers or more


a well put argument ... :clap:
 
mattrickl06 said:
It begs the question should i even bother with extract brewing or hop straight on into AG??

Straight to AG...

I did kits years ago, stopped for 15 or so years and then started again with AG :thumb:
 
Great post PD

I am planning to build a boiler first so I can do full length extract brews while I sort the mash tun and chiller out. I will get there as long as SWMBO does not kill me first :lol:
 
alanywiseman said:
I am planning to build a boiler first so I can do full length extract brews while I sort the mash tun and chiller out. I will get there as long as SWMBO does not kill me first :lol:

Why not just do full length BIAB AG in that boiler...?

If you have the space to boil a full length you can mash it too! All you need is a grain bag... :thumb:
 
Boiler will be a mango chutney barrel. The top is smaller than the middle of the barrel so if I mash in it I will not be able to get the grains back out.
 
More expense with All Grain !

£5 spent this morning on mouse traps ! :D
 
I'm going straight for AG, with 0 brewing experience. It could be a complete disaster, we will know soon :D
 
:thumb:

Wishing you all the best with your brew day, have fun.

Watch those taps ! :D
 
I used to be a bit of a Munton's Brown Ale man a couple of decades ago. Cue close to a 20 year break from brewing, then taking up AG and all I have to say that it IS worth the bother. Seems like kits have improved a whole lot in recent years and lots of people use them to make excellent beers. An why not? But I enjoy the possibility to tweak just about every little detail with the ingredients should I want to do it. The initial investment isn't really that painful either, given that after making a few batches you actually of course start saving money compared to hoisting commercial beers. :hat: PD!
 
piddledribble said:
25Kg of Malt = £23 + 6 packets of hops ( say £20) = over 320 bottles of brilliant beers or more

Are the bottles a fixed- or variable-cost? :hmm:
 

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