HELP! Coopers Pilsner & Saflager W-34/70 dosage

[Rafael]

Hi all,

I'm planning to brew a Coopers Selection Pilsner tonight and wanted to use Saflager W-34/70 instead of the kit yeast. However I've just received delivery of the yeast and the recommended dosage as per pack is 10 to 15 litres, so I reckon I need two of these for my 23litre brew? Can I mix this yeast with the one from the kit, which is supposedly a real lager yeast as well?

Will be brewing as recommended by coopers:
*malt extract (kit itself)
*500gr light spraymalt
*300gr brewing sugar (dextrose monohydrate)

I also have a unopened Coopers Brew Enhancer #1, shall I use a bit of this as well?

Thanks

 

[wheazy_joe]

Have done this kit once and am pretty sure the yeast supplied is a proper lager one. I certainly used it at about 14C and it worked fine, so combining it with an additional pack of yeast certainly won't do any harm.

I had all sorts of bother cos I just chucked the LME into the FV with hot water in it, man that stuff clumps up into solid tennis ball sized, well, clumps. I was attacking it with a blender and all, it actually managed to break the blade off the blender which I then had to fish out the FV with my hands in blind panic! Needless to say, I got nothing like an accurate gravity reading as half the fermentibles were still in solid clumps, but it actually worked out well in the end with the yeast managing to chew through the lot.

Sorry for babbling on, was completely unnecessary.

 

[Rafael]

thanks for the feedback! I've pitched the whole saflager packet + half of kits yeast, 36 hours on and looks pretty active! Been keeping at around 16C degrees, hope my first lager will turn out good!

 

[mike-os]

16 is getting a bit high for the w34 iirc it wants to be 10 to 12c

 

[MyQul]

16 is getting a bit high for the w34 iirc it wants to be 10 to 12c

True, but what a lot of people dont realise is you can ferment at ale temps using lager yeast. It just makes more of a 'dirty' lager

 

[baggybill]

Also, (bit late now!) but for future use, the Coopers yeast packs have a code on them that tells you the age of the yeast and type i.e. lager or ale.

Also also, when using some of their custom kit recipes, they tell you to add their pack plus a named other (see Coopers Oktoberfest as an example).

 

[mike-os]

True, but what a lot of people dont realise is you can ferment at ale temps using lager yeast. It just makes more of a 'dirty' lager

C true but w34 is an expensive yeast to be using for that.... s23 is half the price :whistle:

 

[MyQul]

C true but w34 is an expensive yeast to be using for that.... s23 is half the price :whistle:

I've recently been completely convinced by trueblue's arguments when it comes to yeast vs my natural frugality. W34 is more expensive than S23 but you can re-pitch it at least 6 times. Plus whats an added couple of quid spread over 40 pints. Isn't the added quality a good yeast gives worth it?

 

[mike-os]

No argument there,

 

[Rafael]

Have you guys seen this?

http://brulosophy.com/2016/02/08/fermentation-temperature-pt-4-lager-yeast-saflager-3470-exbeeriment-results/


I wasn't going to brew a lager because I don't have a "proper" temperature control, but after reading this blog I decided to give it a go... Here's to hope!

 

[MyQul]

Have you guys seen this?

http://brulosophy.com/2016/02/08/fe...ager-yeast-saflager-3470-exbeeriment-results/


I wasn't going to brew a lager because I don't have a "proper" temperature control, but after reading this blog I decided to give it a go... Here's to hope!

I just bought WLP001(which can be fermented clean, so whitelabs claim up to 25c) so I can make pseudo lagers with no temp control throught the summer. I do in fact have temp control in the form of a brewbag but I only have one brewbag and two fermenters. So I want to save my temp control for yeasts that need it

 

[mike-os]

interesting article :thumb:

 

[Rafael]

I just bought WLP001(which can be fermented clean, so whitelabs claim up to 25c) so I can make pseudo lagers with no temp control throught the summer. I do in fact have temp control in the form of a brewbag but I only have one brewbag and two fermenters. So I want to save my temp control for yeasts that need it

Interesting! Might give that a go on my next lager, thanks.