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[Chippy_Tea]

Green Flag were at fault but it does seem that this lady over estimated her capabilities in the face of stark warnings.

What STARK WARNINGS, the warning signs don't say don't drive up this hill in a car especially if you are female they only advise you it may be unsuitable in winter.

Sorry but again i must disagree she got the punctures near the woolpack as they mentioned they pushed the car into the car park, this is a flat part of the pass so the hill didn't play a part i also said earlier the road is narrow and there are plenty of rocks in the verge at either side which would be easy to catch if only a small amount off to either side (see video below), i think its wrong to say the lady "over estimated her capabilities" as you are not in possession of all the facts (very few in actual fact) so have nothing to base this sweeping statement on, do you think hundreds of blokes haven't had punctures on that road or its just women drivers who are over their heads driving up there?

 

[micklupulo]

Two tyres " unexpectedly burst" near the top led me to take it that sharp rocks at the edge had been caught. I think you are reading too much into my use of the word "lady" which was actually meant to be respectful. If I had used a less pleasant term then sexism would have been a fair inference.

 

[marshbrewer]

Where is this road, I want to cycle up it.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Two tyres " unexpectedly burst" near the top led me to take it that sharp rocks at the edge had been caught.

I am glad we finally agree on one thing.

The problem I have with your post is when you say "it does seem that this lady over estimated her capabilities in the face of stark warnings" sounds like you are saying she shouldn't have driven up there as it says its narrow and steep, does cutting two tyres on rocks make her a bad driver no, should she have driven up there in the first place yes, accidents happen and as I have said she isn't the first to get puncture up there and won't be the last.

 

[Clint]

Where is this road, I want to cycle up it.

Yeah! Where? I want to avoid it...well mostly...there is a pub involved...although I won't be able to go there due to Herr Drakeford.

 

[micklupulo]

Where is this road, I want to cycle up it.

My son who lives in the area has done and enjoyed it.

 

[marshbrewer]

Yeah! Where? I want to avoid it...well mostly...there is a pub involved...although I won't be able to go there due to Herr Drakeford.

Is it possible to cycle up one way, then descend down to the boozer? If it is, I could meet you in there for a pint (after lockdown, obviously)

 

[Clint]

I would get Mrs Clint to drive me...

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Where is this road, I want to cycle up it.

It doesn't look too steep in the video but watch from 3:20

 

[micklupulo]

I am glad we finally agree on one thing.

The problem I have with your post is when you say "it does seem that this lady over estimated her capabilities in the face of stark warnings" sounds like you are saying she shouldn't have driven up there as it says its narrow and steep, does cutting two tyres on rocks make her a bad driver no, should she have driven up there in the first place yes, accidents happen and as I have said she isn't the first to get puncture up there and won't be the last.

I have visited the area many times and have observed the driving skills that locals develop to cope with the geography of the area which many city dwellers underestimate. We can argue all day about semantics but a tyre "burst" by sharp rocks which may or may not have been at the edge (not a rather innocuous sounding "puncture") suggests an understandable failure to properly navigate the road. If it will assist some mutual understanding I am happy to volunteer the fact that despite having been legally driving for 50 years I would be very circumspect in driving up that road and would certainly not do so with the distraction of kids or day I say dogs for company!

 

[The-Engineer-That-Brews]

Don't Go on the Moor....

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I have visited the area many times and have observed the driving skills that locals develop to cope with the geography of the area which many city dwellers underestimate.

I drive a truck every day (as discussed here many times in the past) i drive in the hills and fells around the lake district and most of these roads are very narrow, i can honestly say the only time i know for sure a local is driving towards me is when he/she is in a tractor your many years behind the wheel has obviously given you talents the rest of us do not possess.

 

[micklupulo]

I drive a truck every day (as discussed here many times in the past) i drive in the hills and fells around the lake district and most of these roads are very narrow, i can honestly say the only time i know for sure a local is driving towards me is when he/she is in a tractor your many years behind the wheel has obviously given you talents the rest of us do not possess.

I have observed the local driving as a passenger which did not require any talent.

 

[DavieC]

We watched Bohemian Rhapsody at an outdoor picnic cinema in that field on your photo Chippy, the surrounding area to The Woolpack(which had a good selection of well kept real Ale) is fantastic, we walked to a little steam train,waterfalls, an old water Mill, loads of stuff.That pic and this thread, has brought back memories of a great weekend, although thankfully we didn't need the breakdown truck!

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I have visited the area many times and have observed the driving skills that locals develop t

I have observed the local driving as a passenger which did not require any talent.

I refer you to my earlier post -
I drive a truck every day (as discussed here many times in the past) i drive in the hills and fells around the lake district and most of these roads are very narrow, i can honestly say the only time i know for sure a local is driving towards me is when he/she is in a tractor!

 

[micklupulo]

I refer you to my earlier post -
I drive a truck every day (as discussed here many times in the past) i drive in the hills and fells around the lake district and most of these roads are very narrow, i can honestly say the only time i know for sure a local is driving towards me is when he/she is in a tractor!

I meant it did not take any talent on my part as a passenger of a local to appreciate their talent as a driver in the area. Come on take a compliment!

 

[David_M]

I passed a blue sign earlier this week that mentioned sat nav. A mile long white knuckle ride followed. When I reached the end of the track, because that's what it turned into, I saw another blue sign. "This road is unsuitable for motor vehicles. Do not follow your sat nav." I'm assuming that the underside of my car is now clean. My underpants are in the wash. At least the sheep found it amusing.

 

[Rodcx500z]

The Honister is a another good one Google Image Result for https://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/03/Screen-Shot-2016-03-08-at-14.27.06.png

 

[DavieC]

Looks good Rod, great part of the UK.

 

[Jim Brewster]

It's a good drive up and down there, I've done it a few times and once at night in heavy rain. Can't see why the breakdown company couldn't have gone to get her if she knew roughly where she was, or at least attempt to.