Gender-neutral Toilets.

[Global33]

There have been a couple of suicides in prisons lately by transgender people being put (in their opinion) in the wrong prison does this mean we will soon see Gender-neutral prisons?

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Prison must be a very grim place to end up if your very different in any way.

I wouldn't be opposed to the idea, but I'd rather see better treatment for the mentally ill first as they are massively over represent in our jails.

Our prisons are over crowded though. If you built a few gender neutral ones wouldn't it help relive the over crowding in the ones we have?

 

[MyQul]

Where's Bernard Manning when you need him?!?

Feeding the worms. He died in 2007

 

[shepp]

Prison must be a very grim place to end up if your very different in any way.

I wouldn't be opposed to the idea, but I'd rather see better treatment for the mentally ill first as they are massively over represent in our jails.

Our prisons are over crowded though. If you built a few gender neutral ones wouldn't it help relive the over crowding in the ones we have?

I think a fair few of these so called gender neutral inmates are mentally ill.

 

[stigman]

Lol this thread is a joke, I've got a teenage girl who is always Goin on about gender this and sexuality that. I just say "listen your either born with a hole or a pole" gents piss stood up women sit down.

 

[Clint]

"A few "....how many gender neutrals are there ? Would you have day release ones,general nick,high security or just nice ones? You could bet a pound to a pinch of shyte that if the gender neutral prisons were nicer than the other ones the rise in gender neutral prisoners would suddenly rise. Just like the amount of people who can make a living out of not working.
The thing is where did all of these alternative types come from or have they always been there and didn't have a medical diagnosis?? Has the human race always had a mixture of male,female,a mixture and neither?
But you can't say nowt otherwise the democracy dictates you're a **** disable phobic, nazi stormtroopers, anti jewish Christian the m word and all the rest you care to mention intolerant who should put up shut up get to the back of the queue and be entitled to nothing when you get to the front now get back to work and pay more tax.
I don't care what colour or persuasion or the flag you fly...just shut up about it and stop getting it charityfied. ..

 

[Global33]

I suspect it's probably like if you live in a country where being gay gets you killed you see less gay people, but it doesn't mean they aren't there.

What is it exactly is it that you'd like to say that you feel that you can't in this democracy? You can say what you like, provided you don't preach actual hated, just as people have a right to challenge you on it. T

 

[Gunge]

Lol this thread is a joke, I've got a teenage girl who is always Goin on about gender this and sexuality that. I just say "listen your either born with a hole or a pole" gents piss stood up women sit down.

Brilliant! And yes, it really is as simple as that!

 

[Gunge]

It all started in the 60s when the oestrogen from the female contraceptive pill started getting into the water supply and turning blokes into burds. I never drink tap water unless it's boiled and I'm a real man with undiluted testosterone oozing from every orifice. It's great!

 

[Clint]

I have my thoughts and opinions on a lot of things,right or wrong, but generally keep them to myself but on the same token I tend not to criticise anyone one else's unless they insist. I do struggle to comprehend some stuff as I feel a lot of it is utter crap and society is full of excuse makers ,ambulance chasers,layabouts...but also the line toe ers,tax payers,hard workers and tryers who seem forever on the tread mill.
Regardless...it's true...you can't voice opinion mostly as it's not pc and it doesn't work both ways in a lot of cases....
It's amazing how this thread all started about **** houses. .I have questioned the subject and my answer is no...
I wouldn't like to think my old mam would have to share toilets ..or my kids..and I'm not sure it's a good idea for my stated reasons..it's all about saving money. Wonder if they'll have mixed showers in the swimming pool or changing in clothes shops.
As for separate toilets thinking about it perhaps they should have them....for people who wish to conduct their vices and keep it from the bodily function lot.
And yes....I am a wind up merchant!

 

[MyQul]

I wonder if it's come about because people feel that they dont have a say in real politics to make actual real world change so faff about with identity politics.

Young people in previous generations protested about serious inequalities and divisions in society, with those battles possibly won all young people have to protest about nowadays is which khazi to use

 

[Clint]

I think you may be on to something there M. It's like social media....the dream use to be get sorted buy a house blah blah blah...most youngsters see this as impossible so their "made it" arena is face book....look at my dinner; see my cat eating my socks,that pouting they do like there's something wrong upstairs....just generally showing off...
That toilet thing is literally. .crap...thought up by pc,looney in a local council **** scared of their own shadow nimbys. ...I bet the head of the council has his own private piss pot...soon change his mind if it was open to everyone. ..

 

[MyQul]

Social media is definately about attention seeking so perhaps it's spilled out into the real world. 'I'm special so I need a special toilet'?

 

[MarkBowie]

Subjects like this can get waay out of hand. I don't personally care what ***, gender or diagnosis someone has. Being deliberately offensive however, that's just being a ****.

 

[Badseed1974]

"A few "....how many gender neutrals are there ? Would you have day release ones,general nick,high security or just nice ones? You could bet a pound to a pinch of shyte that if the gender neutral prisons were nicer than the other ones the rise in gender neutral prisoners would suddenly rise. Just like the amount of people who can make a living out of not working.
The thing is where did all of these alternative types come from or have they always been there and didn't have a medical diagnosis?? Has the human race always had a mixture of male,female,a mixture and neither?
But you can't say nowt otherwise the democracy dictates you're a **** disable phobic, nazi stormtroopers, anti jewish Christian the m word and all the rest you care to mention intolerant who should put up shut up get to the back of the queue and be entitled to nothing when you get to the front now get back to work and pay more tax.
I don't care what colour or persuasion or the flag you fly...just shut up about it and stop getting it charityfied. ..

Are you gender confused? I only ask as I can't decide whether you're a **** or a fanny

 

[ElvisIsBeer]

Years ago I worked in an office where there were two bogs on the ground floor. One was through a couple of coded security doors, which I had access to, but frankly couldn't be ersed. They were separate traps.

The other had two small rooms - one kitted out for disabled users, the other available to both sexes. It was much more conveniently located.

After a particularly heavy night out, which included a memorably vicious Indian meal, I dashed, slightly panic-stricken, to the safe confines of the multi-*** loo. I have to report that what followed was near unspeakable, and I will not tarnish the offices of this fine forum by attempting any significant analysis or description. All I will say is that an exorcist, and not a cleaner, would have been necessary.

Anyway, when the deed was done, I staggered to the sink, and washed up. I faced the gaunt figure in the mirror, who stared back at me remorsefully. I noted the lack of air freshener, and opened the door.

Immediately outside the room were 3 women who were on a training course (10 min break). They were all known to me, and people I would subsequently see and work with on a regular basis. The first said "hello" and stepped into the room. The door closed and a clearly audible "jesus christ" was uttered. The wake of the abomination was following me as I left and the other two woman looked at me with pity and distaste, and turned tail - heading for the less conveniently located convenience.

I apologise for the long post. I've lived with this shame for 15 years.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Brilliant Elvis and for that reason i will never have a dump in a mixed bog.

 

[Gunge]

Brilliant Elvis and for that reason i will never have a dump in a mixed bog.

Yup. That was painful reading and why some counsellors are worth their weight in gold!

 

[MyQul]

As a community support worker I usually have to use 'public' conviencies such as cafe's and pubs. I think Pret a manger has probably got it right, just a little section saying 'toilet' with small lockable rooms with a toilet and hand basin (plus bins, hand driers etc). Men, women or whatever you describe yourself as all use the same little room. No gender description on the door, just do your business and no worries about existential gender crisis

 

[Gerryjo]

There have been a couple of suicides in prisons lately by transgender people being put (in their opinion) in the wrong prison does this mean we will soon see Gender-neutral prisons?

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You do have quite a knack of stirring the S!"£e.Excuse the pun.:whistle:

 

[Clint]

Ah...small lockable rooms....the worst case scenario as Elvis says.....I was thinking these pc wc's were like a large toilet block with a big piss trough on one wall and a row of traps opposite for dumping and ladies...a bit like mens bogs but a free for all...pineapple chunks and chewing gum and everything!