And there we have it when nothing else can stick fall back to the money argument, the trouble with football fans is they have selective memories -
Here are some facts for you -
£824.58m in total! Liverpool's transfer spending breakdown under nine years
This week marks nine years since Liverpool were taken over by American consortium Fenway Sports Group.
The owners started their reign by declaring they would do "whatever is necessary" to guide the Reds back to past glories.
They splashed the cash in Brendan Rodgers' last transfer window in 2014/15, spending over £100m, but have also given Klopp substantial backing.
Their two transfer windows as he rebuilt between 2017 and 2019 saw spending in excess of £300m, although the big-money sale of Coutinho and others saw them recoup nearly £200m in 2017/18.
Can i just say Chippy this is just banter on my part, i think Pep is a great manger and have no doubts City would not be the club they are if he was not there, i am really looking forward to game and may the best team win