Flameout Hops - When to take out?

[pilgrimhudd]

Hiya, i'm thinking of doing a SMaSH recipe on Monday,

10l batch size
3kg of Marris Otter

Mash temp 66c

Boil time 60 mins

8g Nelson 60mins
4g @30mins
4g@15 mins and 1/4 protofloc tablet
4g @ Flameout

Essentially I was wondering when I should take out the hop bag, after cooling, or before, or at a certain temp i've seen people say different things!

Cheers!

 

[MyQul]

Those hop amounts seem very small. I do 25g for a 12L batch at flame out

 

[foxbat]

I take the hop bag out after cooling. Also agree with @MyQul on the quantities. I'd personally drop the 30 minute addition and be looking at 10g@15 mins and at least 20g at flameout with an eye on where that puts the IBUs. Nelson is a lovely hop and it'd be a sin to not get the most flavour out of it that you can.

 

[pilgrimhudd]

Those hop amounts seem very small. I do 25g for a 12L batch at flame out

You know, I thought that it was a litle small, pretty new to this and blindly copying someones recipe!

I take the hop bag out after cooling. Also agree with @MyQul on the quantities. I'd personally drop the 30 minute addition and be looking at 10g@15 mins and at least 20g at flameout with an eye on where that puts the IBUs. Nelson is a lovely hop and it'd be a sin to not get the most flavour out of it that you can.

Brilliant thank you! Yes Nelson is lovely, the smell is out of this world.

 

[pilgrimhudd]

How much hops would you guys put in then?

 

[MyQul]

If it was me I'd put 20g -25g at 10mins and the same amout at flame out (no 30min addition). You'd then need to adjust your 60min addition to hit you target IBU

 

[Slid]

The Greg Hughes recipe resized to 10L is something like 10/5/5/15 grams (total 35g) added at 60/15/5/0 minutes to go on the boil. This is for Nelson Sauvin.

I have not read any great criticism of the GH recipe, which is so good, he essentially repeats it another 4 times in his book, with different hops. Have followed the pattern a few times myself, with good results, but never with Nelson.

 

[pilgrimhudd]

Great! Thanks guys!

 

[Sandimas]

I have not read any great criticism of the GH recipe, which is so good, he essentially repeats it another 4 times in his book, with different hops. Have followed the pattern a few times myself, with good results, but never with Nelson.

The GH NS recipe is superb - absolutely lovely. My favourite hoppy brew.