Fermenting un-boiled wort and hop extract??

[BarnsleyBrewer]

Just wondered........ :hmm:
What would you end up with if you collected 23 litre of mash tun running's, added hop extract to bitter and didn't bother to boil (no hot/cold break)??? :wha:

Would it ferment, would you end up with something drinkable??

BB

 

[Dunfie]

It would probably be cloudy, full of DMS and a good chance of infection.

 

[critch]

it'd ferment..........


lets just leave it there shall we???

 

[Aleman]

Edit : Moved to the correct Forum!!

Just wondered........ :hmm:
What would you end up with if you collected 23 litre of mash tun running's, added hop extract to bitter and didn't bother to boil (no hot/cold break)??? :wha:

Would it ferment, would you end up with something drinkable??

Of course it would ferment . . . How do you think they make John Smiths :wha:

 

[jamesb]

Mmm. Lactobacillus.

 

[jamesb]

Just wondered........ :hmm:
What would you end up with if you collected 23 litre of mash tun running's, added hop extract to bitter and didn't bother to boil (no hot/cold break)??? :wha:
Would it ferment, would you end up with something drinkable??

Of course it would ferment . . . How do you think they make John Smiths :wha:

They'd have to miss out the hop extract for that one. Probably the malt too.

Isn't it just brewer's caramel and water?

 

[tubthumper]

sure its not just dirty ditch water with a bit c02 pumped in

 

[Aleman]

sure its not just dirty ditch water with a bit c02 pumped in

No CO2 involved it's nitro keg . . . . CO2 would add flavour :lol:

 

[tubthumper]

maybee its methane as it would be cheaper than nitro,
so glad that john smiths brother opened his own brewery cos thier stuff is not bad

 

[markp]

The John Smiths issue was covered on 'the other forum' a while back.

My mum and dad used to have a pub in Barnsley and it was the best seller by far. They didn't serve the 'smooth' version, it was cask conditioned.
My dad tried and tried with other guest beers....TTL, Speckled Hen etc, but they never used to do well at all.....no problem, I used to love them :lol:

I actually used to regard a well kept pint of Smiths very highly and even up until recently was quite happy to drink it......even though to my taste it became a shadow of its former self.

The two locals I use these days both have John Smiths as their main beers.....cask and smooth-flow. They also serve some cracking local beers which appeared just as I started home-brewing and it is these beers I have been drinking when out and about.

Couple of months ago one of my locals had run out of the 'guest beer', so I had a pint of Johns instead......it was foul :shock: Nothing wrong with how the beer had been kept....it was in good nick. I just found it very bland and one dimentional and got the feeling it had been put in to a cask just for the 'CAMRA brigade'.....very disappointing and not the drink I used to know and love.....I vowed never to drink it again if at all possible.

I read that they switched production of John Smiths away from Tadcaster and I have it in my mind that the beer deteriorated in quality from this point on.

Sorry about the 'rant'......subject close to heart this John Smiths :lol: