Engineer or Ingeniator?

[DavidDetroit]

"Engineer" is derived from "ingeniator." Had to look that up.
To change it is, at best, a temporary fix. "Used Car" became "Previously Owned" and "Personnel" became "Human Resources." These will go by the boards because of how humans are.
In my experience, the modifier is used (electrical, mechanical, chemical, etc.) to show an actual, degreed engineer and the rest of the time "engineer" is used, it's just for effect.

 

[Hazelwood Brewery]

Engineering is a profession that’s already well respected - that’s why others are trying to associate themselves with it.

Adopting something like Ingeniator is moving away from that very successful and proud profession to something cheap and crass. Engineering, and the role of engineer, doesn’t need this kind of interference.

My point is that a different title will be adopted by the unscrupulous if they think it gives them any advantage so why start by giving them the advantage with our cherished role snd in the meantime making ourselves sound ridiculous?

 

[Buffers brewery]

Has “woke” arrived at engineer?

 

[chthon]

Actually, Britain is behind Holland in this aspect. P.C. Hooft already in the 17th century wanted to replace the word "ingenieur" by "vernufteling", someone who is ingenious.

 

[The-Engineer-That-Brews]

Engineering made easy...

 

[Buffers brewery]

 

[mrhardware]

I went to college on day release for years then continued to go to night school to increase knowledge in field just to be an electronic service technician. I have side stepped into IT and audio visual field now and a few years ago I was manning a local council awards ceremony and when an award for refuse technician (posh name for a bin man) was announced i thought of all the years I studied for the right to be called a technician and it was being used there to glorify a job of collecting rubbish.

 

[Worf]

The problem is the term Engineer has been given to car mechanics and train drivers. I got my BSc in Mechanical engineering at 21 and became a Chartered Engineer at 26. However it counted for nothing job wise and I stopped paying my yearly subscription to the Institute. In the non English speaking world the term is held in reverence like Doctor.

Agreed. I received a BSc in Computer Science where physics, chip design, systems architectures, and internal design was the focus. (As well as machine code and why/how that functions within the internals.)

Now those folk who swap out components one-at-a-time until the problem is fixed, are called 'scientists'. Or 'engineers'.

 

[DavidDetroit]

swap out components one-at-a-time until the problem is fixed

That is a reliable method for getting a string of Christmas lights to work.

 

[Worf]

It works with computers, cars, & motorcycles too. But not an adorable method to fixing stuff.

I enjoy the Christmas lights that allow for more than one burn-out, but trouble- shooting those is more problematic by the time that section goes dark.

 

[DavidDetroit]

@Worf
Works for all that? I wasn't aware.
Anything besides Christmas lights and an oil change is above my paygrade.

 

[CD]

I’m thinking of changing my Forum name to The Ingeniator who Used to Brew. Male contributors over a certain age may be interested in one of my fairly recent creations called ‘Doctor Smallpiece’s Patent Trouser Protector’. The Deluxe version is illustrated below.