Death by cycle.

[Chippy_Tea]

I am a motorcyclist. I still find it funny.

I was a cyclist and a motorcyclist i took both pictures for what they were a joke nothing more.

 

[The Baron]

Me too Chippy I have had bikes for most of my years and only got rid of my Fireblade because my eyes started to not be as good and reactions too.

 

[jeremy Hall]

I am a motorcyclist. I still find it funny.

@Rodcx500z what about you fatty? (sorry I had to )

I'm a cyclist and I found it funny.

A lot of cyclists don't really try and help themselves. If I see another cyclist in the gloom of winter dressed in black I'll scream. I wear bright yellows and lime green. I have six lights. Even then I'm often not seen.

But a lot of car drivers can be knobs. In the example above, someone passed close within a mile of their stopping. Even if they followed the cyclist the entire mile before they turned off, it would have cost them five minutes. Is five minutes worth someone's life?

In winter I cover my ears because it's cold. I don't always hear behind me if it's windy. Just ******* wait. I'll let you through once I know you are there and it's safe and convenient.

 

[MashBag]

I think people run wildly different lives at wildly different speeds and only consider there own way. That creates all manner of issues.

It's often quoted that we live in a "post truth" society. Does the same apply are we also "post tolerance"?

 

[peterpiper]

I welcome this law not because i am anti cyclist it just seems fair and brings accountability on the part of the rider, Today we had a drive out to Southport with the doggy, i don't know if anyone on here has driven the coast road it is fairly long from end to end has a wide pavement on the seaward side with a wide cycle lane combined with it the other side is some wetlands for the twitchers and a massive car park, on the way out we we hit slow moving traffic turned out to be 2 couples on bikes riding on the road and not the purpose built cycle lane here is an example these couples were ding what this bloke is doing riding in the road you can clearly see the dividing line for people and cyclists, this is the kind of thing that gets up peoples noses View attachment 99452

If you had a choice, between a continuous lane, or one stopping every 300m or so, which would you choose?
I hate cycling on roads. But arround here, cycle lane-pavements are usually either crossing private turn-offs (where you have to give way), or switching from one side of the road to the other (across vehicles doing 70 along 60mph roads), every few hundred metres. So basically, good for walking, but useless for cycling any distance, unless you like death traps.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I have posted this many times in the thread, I drive a truck in the lakes I am in narrow lanes all the time I meet cyclists often and always give them plenty of room, if following a cyclists I do so without sitting on their back wheel and they usually let me pass when they can most do this then you get the "I have every right to be here" idiots who don't, this can also be said of car drivers some who are out for a sight seeing drive and who are in no rush will see you and pull in when they can some will not let you pass, I guess there are as many selfish car drivers as cyclists it just cyclists seem to get more stick.

 

[lancon]

Me too Chippy I have had bikes for most of my years and only got rid of my Fireblade because my eyes started to not be as good and reactions too.

But still driving a car?

 

[The Baron]

Yes I still drive a car and wear glasses for driving.
When I meant my reactions were not as good I mean everybody's slows down when you get older but are still well within tolerance but when riding a Motorbike you need to be extra vigilant and have above normal reactions in my world as bikers are easier to be missed or not seen by other road users more than any other vehicle. I just do not want to take the risk anymore.
Or are you asking a different explanation like should I be driving?

 

[Dark Arts]

@The Baron, I think he's questioning your sanity dear boy, how could anyone even contemplate using 4wheels when 2 is the supervisor and obviously right choice for a gentleman such as yourself.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

but when riding a Motorbike you need to be extra vigilan

Spot on B, make a mistake on a bike any you will probably die do the same in a car and your chances of surviving are much higher

 

[Dark Arts]

"The most dangerous thing on a motorbike is the nut attached to the handlebars"

 

[Chippy_Tea]

"The most dangerous thing on a motorbike is the nut attached to the handlebars"

The most dangerous thing for the "nut attached to the handlebars" is the person parked in the side street with so much going on in their tiny brains that they are not giving driving their full attention, i have had many arguments in this forum about hands free kits in cars i have one and when you are talking you are not concentrating 100% on driving especially if its a business call or very detailed and not just asking a mate if he is going to the pub later.

 

[The Baron]

I used to run courses for major companies in conjunction with the RAC and we recommended that all drivers even with handsfree kits should not use them but wait until their next driving stop which was generally no longer than 2 hours then return calls because of the risk of distraction using handsfree.
It is very rare for any call needed to be acted on immediately but is created by company management peer pressure.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I used to run courses for major companies in conjunction with the RAC and we recommended that all drivers even with handsfree kits should not use them but wait until their next driving stop which was generally no longer than 2 hours then return calls because of the risk of distraction using handsfree.
It is very rare for any call needed to be acted on immediately but is created by company management peer pressure.

One of the worst i have seen is where you can get the car to read you your email then reply by using your voice to type a reply its no wonder there are so may crashes.

 

[The Baron]

A lot of companies are now looking at the handsfree issue as there will be a claim of Corporate Manslaughter just waiting to happen.

 

[jeremy Hall]

I have posted this many times in the thread, I drive a truck in the lakes I am in narrow lanes all the time I meet cyclists often and always give them plenty of room, if following a cyclists I do so without sitting on their back wheel and they usually let me pass when they can most do this then you get the "I have every right to be here" idiots who don't, this can also be said of car drivers some who are out for a sight seeing drive and who are in no rush will see you and pull in when they can some will not let you pass, I guess there are as many selfish car drivers as cyclists it just cyclists seem to get more stick.

The lanes have become the exercise grounds of the masses and I sympathise with anyone who has to use them commercially. I use them a lot as they are quiet. So do a lot of bikes, horses, runners, walkers and dog walkers. It can't be easy navigating them on a timetable. Lots of blind corners too. There isn't really a solution. I always try and pull in to let cars through, but more often than not I see them again when they meet another car coming the other way. All we can do is try and work together to make it work and have patience. Not always easy when you are on a schedule I'm sure.