Corny keg Cask...

[Richard Brown]

So I understand the differences between keg and cask. However just thought. Could you keg a beer, let it settle at low psi, and not push too much co2 at it. Then after 2 weeks have cask beer from corny keg?

 

[LeeH]

No, you would just have a low carbonated kegged ale.

I would have thought something is on the market to covert a keg to a cask though. It’s only a breather after all isnt it?

 

[braziliain]

I've seen someone do it (possibly on here) with a gas disconnect that has cotton wool stuffed in the end to form a breather, them the pump is connected up to the beer out post...

 

[BarnBrian]

I've seen someone do it (possibly on here) with a gas disconnect that has cotton wool stuffed in the end to form a breather, them the pump is connected up to the beer out post...

I believe that was Dutto in a post about the Dark Farm 10l kegs.
PeeBee did a very informative post on using beer engines some time ago that may be of help.

 

[peebee]

So I understand the differences between keg and cask. …

You probably don't; or at least not how it's been explained to me. A keg has a single opening, into which fits a "spear" that will allow the beer out and also allows CO2 to be injected in to push the beer out. A cask has two openings and is mounted horizontally. One on the end (which becomes the bottom when mounted horizontally) into which goes the tap, and one in the side (which becomes the top when mounted horizontally) into which goes the "shrive" which has a hole banged in and plugged with a porous "soft spile" to let the air in as the beer is drawn out. The "soft spile" might be replaced with some gubbins that connects to a "breather" or other device that lets CO2 in as beer is drawn out (the beer doesn't go off so fast then). And Corny kegs … well, don't fit either description but are generally considered "kegs".

… However just thought. Could you keg a beer, let it settle at low psi, and not push too much co2 at it. Then after 2 weeks have cask beer from corny keg?

Of course you can. We are home-brewers and don't need to be tangled up in a "name" (keg or cask). I wrote a (quite lengthy) treatise on getting cask style beer out of Corny kegs. You can find it here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwzEv5tRM-5EQUhZbDNPdmV1bWc.

What "Brazilian" said above possibly refers to a recent post of mine where I had a Corny disconnect stuffed with cotton-wool (to act as a "soft spile", not a "breather"). But I was using a 2L mini-keg with Corny style disconnect posts because letting air in is of course risky (beer goes off after a few days); I wouldn't use this trick on a 19L Corny keg.

(And "BarnBrian" has just added a post referring to me … cheers Brian!).

 

[peebee]

No, you would just have a low carbonated kegged ale. ...

"LeeH" is right. You can't manage the CO2 pressure with the commonly used regulators 'cos they just will not work anywhere close to "cask pressures", which should be zero PSI in a pub. I utilise variable "propane regulators" to get the pressure about right (1-2PSI). These pressures are impossible to manage manually too. Why should there be any pressure? Why can't I use a "breather"? For the answer to those you will need to read my treatise!

 

[BarnBrian]

You probably don't; or at least not how it's been explained to me. A keg has a single opening, into which fits a "spear" that will allow the beer out and also allows CO2 to be injected in to push the beer out. A cask has two openings and is mounted horizontally. One on the end (which becomes the bottom when mounted horizontally) into which goes the tap, and one in the side (which becomes the top when mounted horizontally) into which goes the "shrive" which has a hole banged in and plugged with a porous "soft spile" to let the air in as the beer is drawn out. The "soft spile" might be replaced with some gubbins that connects to a "breather" or other device that lets CO2 in as beer is drawn out (the beer doesn't go off so fast then). And Corny kegs … well, don't fit either description but are generally considered "kegs".

Of course you can. We are home-brewers and don't need to be tangled up in a "name" (keg or cask). I wrote a (quite lengthy) treatise on getting cask style beer out of Corny kegs. You can find it here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwzEv5tRM-5EQUhZbDNPdmV1bWc.

What "Brazilian" said above possibly refers to a recent post of mine where I had a Corny disconnect stuffed with cotton-wool (to act as a "soft spile", not a "breather"). But I was using a 2L mini-keg with Corny style disconnect posts because letting air in is of course risky (beer goes off after a few days); I wouldn't use this trick on a 19L Corny keg.

(And "BarnBrian" has just added a post referring to me … cheers Brian!).

Hi Phil
Can you put your treatise in the Brewing "How to" guides. I think a lot of folk would find it useful.

Brian

 

[peebee]

Hi Phil
Can you put your treatise in the Brewing "How to" guides. I think a lot of folk would find it useful.

Brian

It's too big to post! So I have a link pointing to it in my Google drive. But I guess the Admins could arrange to post it? …

('Tis Paul, not Phil!).

 

[BarnBrian]

It's too big to post! So I have a link pointing to it in my Google drive. But I guess the Admins could arrange to post it? …

('Tis Paul, not Phil!).

Apologies. I'll put Chippy onto it.
Brian

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I am not able to do it but have sent Angie a message to see if it is possible.