Commercial IPAs

[Pope]

I went to Wetherspoons on Sunday with the missus....there were a few cans of IPAs which were spot on...can't remember the names though.

Roosters Baby- Faced Assassin IPA and Yankee Pale Ale and the other cans I had...really good beers.

 

[Linalmeemow]

Founders Centennial IPA
Magic Rock Cannonball
Beavertown Neck Oil and Gamma Ray
Anything by the Kernel

All these are outstanding, but expect to pay over the odds for them.

 

[Pope]

For the first time, I had a Stone IPA last night...it's probably the best IPA I've had...I loved it!

 

[strange-steve]

Some of the best IPAs I've tasted:

Stone Ruination
Cloudwater v6
Founders Centennial
Firestone Walker Double Jack
Sixpoint Resin
Evil Twin Yang
Thornbridge Huck
Flying Dog Snake Dog

All of these are absolutely great.

 

[peteplus1]

There are absolutely shed loads of great IPA's out there. Guess I'm spoilt here in Leeds as we have some excellent independent craft beer retailers around. If you only have the high street supermarkets to go at, maybe an internet order is the way forward. There are so many beers I could recommend but the above have nailed some really good ones!

 

[Pope]

There are absolutely shed loads of great IPA's out there. Guess I'm spoilt here in Leeds as we have some excellent independent craft beer retailers around. If you only have the high street supermarkets to go at, maybe an internet order is the way forward. There are so many beers I could recommend but the above have nailed some really good ones!

I had a few drinks in Leeds on Saturday...I went into Tapped, where I had the Stone IPA I mentioned earlier...like you say, Leeds has a great drinking scene.

 

[Amidared]

I'll only buy in when I see something different that sounds good. The supermarkets can sometimes surprise with some good beers. Tesco have PROPER JOB CORNISH IPA on the shelves right now and Asda have RINGWOOD'S CIRCADIAN IPA which is a good session IPA.(4 for a fiver)actually Asda has both in.

 

[machin05]

Founders Centennial IPA
Magic Rock Cannonball
Beavertown Neck Oil and Gamma Ray
Anything by the Kernel

All these are outstanding, but expect to pay over the odds for them.

It's not "over the odds" when they're as good as they are though.

 

[Godfather50]

I really enjoyed Siena Navada's Torpedo recently. My Christmas treat has got to be an internet case of mixed beers from a decent brewery. The issue is choosing which one.

 

[Linalmeemow]

It's not "over the odds" when they're as good as they are though.

Four or five quid a bottle is over the odds for beer unless it's brewed from unicorn tears. The raw materials are the same (OK, there may be a lot more hops, but this doesn't justify the massive price jump) and the process is the same. Not sure how the high prices are justified. There's a lot of hipster wankery goes on around some of these breweries that has a lot to do with the prices...

 

[terrym]

Four or five quid a bottle is over the odds for beer unless it's brewed from unicorn tears. The raw materials are the same (OK, there may be a lot more hops, but this doesn't justify the massive price jump) and the process is the same. Not sure how the high prices are justified. There's a lot of hipster wankery goes on around some of these breweries that has a lot to do with the prices...

:thumb:
This reminded me of the recent £9 per pint thread on here
http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66799

 

[machin05]

Four or five quid a bottle is over the odds for beer unless it's brewed from unicorn tears. The raw materials are the same (OK, there may be a lot more hops, but this doesn't justify the massive price jump) and the process is the same. Not sure how the high prices are justified. There's a lot of hipster wankery goes on around some of these breweries that has a lot to do with the prices...

Urgh, what a ridiculous post.

It's not just a case of raw materials = good beer.

You're talking about the best brewers in the country/world using top of the range equipment, lab analysis, yeast management etc. Plus we're talking about 60 to 100 times the amount of imported hops in the dry hopping stage alone.

Price up a clone of Hobgoblin, and a clone of Cloudwater DIPA and see what the price difference is...

I'd also be interested in what the "hipster wankery" that goes on is???

 

[machin05]

This is from the head honcho at Magic Rock, imo one of the best breweries in the UK:

“Craft beer isn’t an opportunity to profiteer, despite that being the stick it gets beaten with by the real ale fraternity,” Burhouse says. “I love real ale, that’s the culture I grew up with, and I wanted it to be at the core of what we did and allow us to do other things. I’m hoping that people are willing to trust and enjoy the product enough that they’ll pay a little more for it.”

Recently, Burhouse made the crucial decision to raise his pricing structure slightly, from wholesale right through to the price per pint in the brewery’s own taproom. A vocal minority made it pretty clear that they weren’t happy about this. “You’ve got a situation where people refuse to pay more than �£3 for a pint of Ringmaster locally but down in London they’d consider that incredibly good value,” he says. “But the same person will happily go to a restaurant and pay �£4.50 for a pint of Peroni. I don’t understand how that mentality has evolved.”

“Our price rises have had practical reasons behind them,” Burhouse continues. “They allow us to make the business what we think it should be. I don’t think the market should be responsible for keeping you in a position where you are unable to pay your staff well, or invest in new processes and equipment.”

Presumably, that's some of the hipster wankery to which you refer...?

http://goodbeerhunting.com/blog/201...any-bringing-the-west-coast-to-west-yorkshire

 

[Hoddy]

Your forgetting the duty the brewery has to pay based on the ABV of the beer.

Again hopgoblin 4% Vs cloud water DIPA 7% = cost difference.

Don't get me wrong. I still can't work out the prices of beers in brewdog bars.


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[johnnyboy1965]

Four or five quid a bottle is over the odds for beer unless it's brewed from unicorn tears. The raw materials are the same (OK, there may be a lot more hops, but this doesn't justify the massive price jump) and the process is the same. Not sure how the high prices are justified. There's a lot of hipster wankery goes on around some of these breweries that has a lot to do with the prices...

Totally agree...."hipster wankery" just about sums it up.
EG Brewdog....very good beer indeed...but really £6.00 a pint. Jackhammer @ £4.75 a 330ml bottle.
St Austell Proper Job Tescos £1.50 a 500ml bottle ...the best on the market.
My "not so local" specialist beer supplier has just got me a crate of St Austell "Big Job" @ £2.75 per bottle

 

[machin05]

Comparing Jack Hammer to Proper Job is like comparing apples to oranges.
Plus, supermarket pricing is hardly a fair barometer for value.
And finally, why are you drinking Jack Hammer by the pint?!?!

 

[Linalmeemow]

Urgh, what a ridiculous post.

It's not just a case of raw materials = good beer.

You're talking about the best brewers in the country/world using top of the range equipment, lab analysis, yeast management etc. Plus we're talking about 60 to 100 times the amount of imported hops in the dry hopping stage alone.

Price up a clone of Hobgoblin, and a clone of Cloudwater DIPA and see what the price difference is...

I'd also be interested in what the "hipster wankery" that goes on is???

To coin a phrase, "Urgh, what a ridiculous post".

"Best brewers in the world". It's just a job, same as all the others. Sure, you deserve a fair wage but so does every other brewer. You think other brewers aren't running labs and managing their yeast? I've already mentioned that I understand the price of exotic hops will up the price but not to the extent we're talking about, and I understand the duties. However, a large part of this is marketing and selling the exclusivity and "artisan" bull**** that plagues the craft beer scene. I love good beer, and I can't wait to visit the Magic Rock tap when I'm in Huddersfield in February - I think their beers are superb - but the snobbery that's crept into brewing in the last few years is sickening.

 

[MickDundee]

Totally agree...."hipster wankery" just about sums it up.
EG Brewdog....very good beer indeed...but really £6.00 a pint. Jackhammer @ £4.75 a 330ml bottle.
St Austell Proper Job Tescos £1.50 a 500ml bottle ...the best on the market.
My "not so local" specialist beer supplier has just got me a crate of St Austell "Big Job" @ £2.75 per bottle

Proper job is 5.5% ABV, Jackhammer is 7.2%.

Proper job is 50ish IBUs, Brewdog claim Jackhammer is "Hopped to 200+ theoretical IBUs".

Those 2 facts alone explain the price difference, although there are other factors too!

 

[MrRock]

https://www.brewdog.com/lowdown/blog/brewdog-bar-pricing

 

[machin05]

To coin a phrase, "Urgh, what a ridiculous post".

"Best brewers in the world". It's just a job, same as all the others. Sure, you deserve a fair wage but so does every other brewer. You think other brewers aren't running labs and managing their yeast? I've already mentioned that I understand the price of exotic hops will up the price but not to the extent we're talking about, and I understand the duties. However, a large part of this is marketing and selling the exclusivity and "artisan" bull**** that plagues the craft beer scene. I love good beer, and I can't wait to visit the Magic Rock tap when I'm in Huddersfield in February - I think their beers are superb - but the snobbery that's crept into brewing in the last few years is sickening.

I suppose being in the Beatles was "just a job" too? :twisted:

I think I'm going to need you to point out some of this "hipster wankery" and "artisan bull****" that these breweries are peddling, because from where I'm sitting, paying £2.50 for a can of Cannonball screams amazing value to me. If you're referring to Cloudwater DIPA coming in at about £4.95 a bottle, then I'm sorry, that still represents value for money to me. I'd much rather have one of those than spend the same on 2 bottles of Speckled Hen or whatever spermarket bilge you deem as better value.

The only snobbery I see is from some of the beer bloggers and Craft Beer Twitterati, but I try not to let that cloud my opinion.