Closest CML match for Muntons gold yeast

[soupdragon]

Hi all

As the title. I've "inherited" a few Muntons kits and am interested which CML yeast would be a best match for the gold yeast that accompanies the kit.
I hope it's not 4 as I've never been a fan. There's something about it that never tastes quite right, to me anyway.
I have used a single 6g sachet of Muntons before with good results but am curious what changes more/similar yeast would make.
Thanks in advance.

Cheers Tom

 

[MashBag]

Tom.

Can we do this the other way round.. What kits are they and what flavours do you want?

https://www.crossmyloofbrew.co.uk/yeast-specs
I have had some good results using 2 at a time. ½ Sachet The firm (Windsor) for flavour and whole pack Midlands (Nottingham) to finish.

Their four does seem better (tasty) than s04

 

[soupdragon]

Morning Mr (or Mrs/Miss/It/Them, apologies if I've missed any out) Bag.

The kits in question are Old English Bitter and I'd be looking at maintaining the malty flavours

Cheers Tom

 

[MashBag]

Morning

Nottingham or dare I say four.

Windsor gets a bit more fruity/estery

 

[Northern_Brewer]

Muntons Gold seems to be a Nottingham derivative, and their "ordinary" is probably an EDME derivative like Windsor/S-33. So in CML terms you want Midland.

As an aside, there's lots of reports that S-04 "changed" a couple of years ago and is now much cleaner than it was, so you may want to give it another go some time.

 

[soupdragon]

Morning

Nottingham or dare I say four.

Windsor gets a bit more fruity/estery

Muntons Gold seems to be a Nottingham derivative, and their "ordinary" is probably an EDME derivative like Windsor/S-33. So in CML terms you want Midland.

As an aside, there's lots of reports that S-04 "changed" a couple of years ago and is now much cleaner than it was, so you may want to give it another go some time.

I asked CML the same question and not long had a reply.
They suggested 4 or WHC's Bond. I've always had good results with Nottingham but as 4 has been mentioned both here and by CML I may just give it another go, especially if it's been "tweaked".

Thanks all. Wise words as per usual

Cheers Tom

 

[MashBag]

Tom. There yeasts are so cheap you could go mad.

And of over there now to work out wtf WHC BOND is

 

[soupdragon]

Tom. There yeasts are so cheap you could go mad.

And of over there now to work out wtf WHC BOND is

Can't fault the value.
I may even buy a pack of fuggles to experiment with while I'm there

Cheers Tom

 

[starseeker]

Why not use the Muntons premium gold yeast ,rather than find something similar ?

 

[soupdragon]

Why not use the Muntons premium gold yeast ,rather than find something similar ?

Appx £2 per 6g sachet then post and packing on top. Compare that to the prices from CML and it's no contest

Cheers Tom

 

[starseeker]

Sorry , i thought that you already had some yeast with your kits ,hence my post

 

[soupdragon]

Sorry , i thought that you already had some yeast with your kits ,hence my post

I do but if i double up and take yeast from one kit I'll need to buy replacements. So I'm curious as to which CML would be best. I'll probably end up getting a couple of 4

Cheers Tom

 

[starseeker]

Even though the Muntons yeast are only 6g ,they are more than sufficient to ferment 23l , i have just bottled a stout using this yeast ,as i did last year ,and its done the job perfectly .

 

[soupdragon]

To be fair, I bought one of their Old English Bitters a while ago and just used the single sachet, it fermented out without a problem. So when I was gifted a couple more I am/was just curious if only 6g of yeast creates flavours that 11/12g wouldn't, overworked yeast and all that malarkey

Cheers Tom

 

[starseeker]

I see , it will be interesting to see what you think :)

 

[soupdragon]

It'll be a good while before I start "mucking about" as there's a few brews in front of them in the brew queue I will post any findings when the time comes though

Cheers Tom